Makrs sense. Go cheap, and save something for a refresh. That's probably when VRR will magically start working in docked mode too.

Quote from: DreamWorld on May 18, 2025, 10:00:02

Quote from: Fahewm on May 18, 2025, 04:35:03They should have used 3nm for future proofing and 2x battery

I mean, yeah, if they wanna charge $1500+ like high end smartphones.

Quote from: ZycoFox on May 16, 2025, 15:08:00Nintendo cheap out again (surprise surprise)

And what would they achieve if they didn't cheap out? Serious question. Do you think RTX 5080 tier performance would suddenly become a remote possibility and obtainable?

I think people are forgetting what a relatively inexpensive handheld is or can be, realistically. They've always been underpowered throughout history.

It's not like the performance delta between the very fastest current handhelds and something like steam deck / switch 2 is huge @ < 15w. At best maybe looking at something 30% faster but likely costs 400% more.

And the stuff that isn't as costly (780m apus) is barely any faster at all but have crap battery life.

People are already spamming 'drop the price' on Nintendo's own livestreams. A reasonable suggestion would be something that can bring the price down further not up.

Indeed...

Given the THREE marketing targets of: size/weight/form factor, runtime-on-battery and cost Nintendo was never going to 'compete' with the x86 or 'bleeding edge of performance' crowds.

Granted that the gap between the Switch1 and 'current hardware' is rather massive and huge, Nintendo had a very large swath of performance to land a Switch2 into which could be a sizable performance upgrade of the Switch1 while still delivering on their market objectives.

In other words, a Snapdragon8/10 Elite+ (or equivalent device) was never going to happen.

Quote from: Fahewm on May 18, 2025, 04:35:03They should have used 3nm for future proofing and 2x battery

I mean, yeah, if they wanna charge $1500+ like high end smartphones.

Quote from: ZycoFox on May 16, 2025, 15:08:00Nintendo cheap out again (surprise surprise)

And what would they achieve if they didn't cheap out? Serious question. Do you think RTX 5080 tier performance would suddenly become a remote possibility and obtainable?

I think people are forgetting what a relatively inexpensive handheld is or can be, realistically. They've always been underpowered throughout history.

It's not like the performance delta between the very fastest current handhelds and something like steam deck / switch 2 is huge @ < 15w. At best maybe looking at something 30% faster but likely costs 400% more.

And the stuff that isn't as costly (780m apus) is barely any faster at all but have crap battery life.

People are already spamming 'drop the price' on Nintendo's own livestreams. A reasonable suggestion would be something that can bring the price down further not up.

They should have used 3nm for future proofing and 2x battery

Exactly! Nintendo was killing it in the N64 days, that's why they outsold Playstation by such a huge margin and being so under powered is why Switch sold so few units and so few games! /s

Nintendo cheap out again (surprise surprise)

Does it make sense that developers now have to spend more time optimizing their games to run well, when they could have just used better hardware to begin with (again) thus saving time & money? Nope, that makes too much sense for Nintendo.

Honestly what are they even doing.. Nintendo aren't even the same since they lost Rare during the N64 days, their games were usually better than Nintendo's efforts.