The GPU and npu are a total failure in this CPU. 10tflops is ridiculous, compared to the 48tops of the older lunar lake CPU.
And then there is the missing thunderbolt 5 support, why?

I'm just gonna skip this CPU and wait panther lake that comes in a few months.

Quote from: Mr Majestyk on February 10, 2025, 00:59:25All well and good, but they saddled it with a trash tier iGPU. Why oh why did they forgo Xe2?

I've heard the following explanation: that Intel had had ordered large quantities of Arrow Lake chips from TSMC long before they made Lunar Lake with Xe2 iGPU. That's why Arrow Lake has outdated iGPU. And now they have to sell these chips first. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but it kinda makes sense.

QuoteYou'd have to be literally insane not to wait for Panther Lake with it's Xe3 based iGPU if you want an Intel based laptop.

You can also become insane if you continue the "waiting game" for too long. I wouldn't bet on getting any decent amounts of Panther Lake Xe3 iGPU laptops before 2026. I mean, look at how slow everything goes since the last couple of years:
- first there's a presentation of how "awesome" the new technology is - then some months later comes an announcement of market start - then hardware manufacturers wait another couple of months until there is some international computer show (like CES) - after that it will take yet another 2-3 months until the products finally arrive.....

QuoteIf we are lucky Intel will also release Panther Lake for desktop rather than a pathetic Arrow Lake refresh that will only beef up the NPU.

If I remember correctly Panther Lake isn't planned for desktop. The next desktop CPU with Xe3 iGPU will be Nova Lake, which I would expect earliest in H2 2026. Earliest. But looking at how slow things go, it can easily be 2027.

If we are lucky, then the Arrow Lake Refresh on desktop will not be that pathetic as you describe. Theoretically it could feature Xe2 iGPUs. That would be quite nice. But that may only be wishful thinking...

120fps x265 anytime soon? Who can break placebo in handbrake...
My phone already records 8K, just when....

Quote from: Andrea on February 09, 2025, 20:47:36So this Intel CPU with 55W-160W TDP is more powerful that an AMD CPU with a 55W-75W TDP, launched one and a half year ago?
Sounds good.

Lmao. You are "only" lying about "just" 112W less.

• AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX3D
• AMD Ryzen 9 7945HX3D Zen4 analysis - The fastest mobile gaming processor thanks to 3D V-Cache

QuotePower Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor
187.3 Watt

All well and good, but they saddled it with a trash tier iGPU. Why oh why did they forgo Xe2?

You'd have to be literally insane not to wait for Panther Lake with it's Xe3 based iGPU if you want an Intel based laptop. Panther Lake will be on 18A node, has backside power delivery, GaaFET, will bring back memory controller to cpu tile, gets 10% IPC uplift on the P cores, will have massively stronger gpu, will be even more efficient and not be crippled like Lunar Lake by lack of cores.

If we are lucky Intel will also release Panther Lake for desktop rather than a pathetic Arrow Lake refresh that will only beef up the NPU. Intel needs for Panther Lake to shine because Zen 6 will be a. true beast that fixes all the problems with Zen 4/5 and will be out before Nova Lake.

Strix Halo will wipe the floor with intel's radioactive waste.

Quote from: Andrea on February 09, 2025, 20:47:36So this Intel CPU with 55W-160W TDP is more powerful that an AMD CPU with a 55W-75W TDP, launched one and a half year ago?
Sounds good.

1. 55W TDP + 160W MTP is not the same as 55W-75W configurable TDP—the 7945HX3D peaks at around 120W and stabilizes at around 105W. Intel chips are allowed to have a higher power ceiling because they have a higher thermal threshold.

2. CBR23 and CB2024 power scaling suggests the 285K consistently surpasses the 9950X up until 130W—the same should reflect on their HX counterparts—the 275HX shouldn't need anywhere near 160W to surpass the 7945HX3D.

So this Intel CPU with 55W-160W TDP is more powerful that an AMD CPU with a 55W-75W TDP, launched one and a half year ago?
Sounds good.

24core CPU beat 16core cpu :D but with low score comapre.