Quote from: Tempest on January 16, 2025, 21:22:13which seems to be an indicator that there are variants planned with more memory

We don't have to guess, it's stated directly here: rog.asus.com/us/laptops/rog-flow/rog-flow-z13-2025/spec/ (It won't let me post links either lol). DS96 and XS96 will have 32GB while XS99 will have 128GB.

Quote from: Thunder on January 07, 2025, 14:06:05I think it's a very interesting product for 95% of laptop users, I think it's the path that started with the surface.
We all know that a 10W iGPU will never surpass a 400W dGPU, but it's more than enough for 95% of the population looking for mobile productivity in both CPU + iGPU, and this is only offered by AMD. If you want the most powerful, it's better to build a PC with RTX 5090 to work on 3D editing and video, but this AMD tablet is perfect for the next 10 years.

Yup! As an owner of a 1st gen Surface Book, the form factor IS attractive and can be productive if paired with a decent keyboard/cover (the keyboard MS offered with the Book is actually really good!). MS actually stuffed a GTX1050 into my keyboard along with a bit more battery. :)

While others are commenting on the "AI" uses I'd offer that ditching the "AI" nonsense and simply using it as a "general use" computer which in this case the iGPU is strong enough to ACTUALLY include some Gaming (with reasonable limitations) then what we have here is a small and light as well as fairly decent device.

The BIG question will be how good/bad the pricing will be as well as what options will be offered on release.

Now if it were 12" it might fit in the tablet sleve in my camera case. :)

Quote from: Tempest on January 16, 2025, 21:22:13I'm not allowed to post a link

Wrong.

www.google.com

Quote from: Mar2ck on January 10, 2025, 11:12:02

Quote from: Tempest on January 08, 2025, 20:02:09They butchered this device by limiting its memory to 32 GB. At the very least, give it 64 GB, so it becomes not immediately obsolete, and so it may actually use this chip for what it is advertised for, decently running AI workloads.

The Asus website lists it as having 128GB max capacity and various CES showroom videos show it being able to allocate up to 96GB to the GPU via Armoury Crate or the BIOS.

On the Asus website regarding the device (I'm not allowed to post a link) they write  in the "performance" section: "is capable of running large language models with 70 billion parameters", which seems to be an indicator that there are variants planned with more memory, as, even if quantized (aside from the lowest quality versions), a 70B model would not fit remotely in 32 GB, much less when sharing it with Windows.

I've seen that too, not sure if that is an error on their behalf, just throwing out some general specs of Strix Halo, or if there is a variant with more RAM coming eventually. As it stands, this device could be so much better, just by playing to its APU's strength.

Quote from: Tempest on January 08, 2025, 20:02:09They butchered this device by limiting its memory to 32 GB. At the very least, give it 64 GB, so it becomes not immediately obsolete, and so it may actually use this chip for what it is advertised for, decently running AI workloads.

The Asus website lists it as having 128GB max capacity and various CES showroom videos show it being able to allocate up to 96GB to the GPU via Armoury Crate or the BIOS.

They butchered this device by limiting its memory to 32 GB. At the very least, give it 64 GB, so it becomes not immediately obsolete, and so it may actually use this chip for what it is advertised for, decently running AI workloads.

I think it's a very interesting product for 95% of laptop users, I think it's the path that started with the surface.
We all know that a 10W iGPU will never surpass a 400W dGPU, but it's more than enough for 95% of the population looking for mobile productivity in both CPU + iGPU, and this is only offered by AMD. If you want the most powerful, it's better to build a PC with RTX 5090 to work on 3D editing and video, but this AMD tablet is perfect for the next 10 years.

Quote from: ThePan on January 07, 2025, 07:06:11The exclusion of a Thunderbolt 5 is what broke my heart about this tablet especially after the impressive new XG Mobile reveal :(

Thunderbolt belongs to Intel, you won't see Thunderbolt 5 for now with AMD chipsets

Aren't they comparing only the AI processing power to 4090 and not overall performance? It is quite obvious that 120W APU with iGPU can't compete with 450W dGPU. It will take some years before even any 120W dGPU has 4090 kind of performance.

The exclusion of a Thunderbolt 5 is what broke my heart about this tablet especially after the impressive new XG Mobile reveal :(