First it was 1400 km, then 1200, then 1000, then 900, and now 700 km. Have you noticed how the original 1400 km range has disappeared from the articles about Toyotas solid-state batteries? Lmao.

Alright, I can tell ya'll hate Toyota's very much. Let's move on. Anyone have any opinions on Skoda? They don't sell in NA market but EU/Asia, I believe. Mostly built on VW platforms. Typically have multiple drivetrains (petrol, diesel, plug-in, etc) per model. Seem to have fairly low cost to maintain and reliable. Usually are very spacious and have tons of room (rear passenger leg room, boot, etc).

Might get rid of of my Toyota for one. Thinking either Superb or Octavia vRS.

What a load of s***..any company saying out soon .or working on it is click bait if it's not on the market or at least in phase testing pre market YOU AINT GOT s*** ..ITS ALL HOT AIR just look at Dyson..had a 1000hp EV and spent 8 billion dollars on battery tech research and then pulled the pin cos Tesla were so far ahead they decided to flag the whole thing ..good luck charging all these EVs with inadequate grids

Headlines from earlier Toyota announcements -- at this point, I won't believe them until you can actually buy a car with these miracle batteries:

2014: "Toyota to Offer High Performance Solid-State Batteries in 2020"
2017: "Toyota's new solid-state battery could make its way to cars by 2020"
2020: "Toyota's Quick-Charging Solid-State Battery Coming in 2025"
2023: "Toyota to roll out solid-state-battery EVs as soon as 2027"

Yes.  They obviously meant "charging time" not "charging speed".

QuoteIf what Toyota claims is true, it could significantly reduce EV charging speeds

Uhhh, wouldn't this be a bad thing? 

Now if only Toyota's solid state battery department will also make batteries for phones, tablets and laptops. If so, I've got a big order waiting.

They say this every year, as long as you are the future savior, you don't need to do anything now.  They've been just about to crack that stacking technique for like 3 years now, with production always being 2-3 years away.  There are other batteries, and our current infrastructure is built for the speeds they can charge at.  Until solid state isn't a pipe dream they need to get in the game.

Isn't it Japanese tradition to not really be the first at anything tho? I mean, if we look at history, they were also very late when it came to fossil fuel cars too (vs American / European manufacturers at the time). They tend to be slow at adopting new tech but very good at analyzing, copying and then building something better. So it isn't really any surprise to me that Tesla and BYD are first. But we'll see I guess.

Not really a fan of Tesla's (or Elon Musk for the matter), they tend to have high insurance premiums and were over my budget. BYD is also not very widely available (unsure if related to all these China related sanctions) where I'm at. So I ended up getting a used Nissan Leaf 2019 model recently. Yeah, the range isn't amazing but it was cheap with low mileage and I mostly drive within the city 95% of the time.

Quote from: Powhoundus on October 24, 2023, 07:24:22I applaud Toyotas efforts to make a better future. Hydrogen, new battery tech, ammonia engine... It doesn't matter if their effort will be the future. What the mouth breathers fail to realize is that what matters is *they are looking* and maybe one of those programs will be a become better auto energy system. If no one is looking we'll be stuck with the same fossil fuel problems. Keep looking Toyota, and yes, keep us apprised of what you're working on because one of those solutions will be better.

Oh look apparently a Toyota employee is trying  to spread the gospel. The road to hell is paved with BS " marketing brochures. BTW Toyota is only one of about a dozen or more companies working on solid state batteries and as usual were late to the game. They haven't got a clue what they want to do. Meanwhile companies like Tesla, BYD just get on with it and deliver EV's. Go back to sleep behind the wheel of your Camry

Happy Japanese car makers are finally embracing current generation trends.  Aging population have seriously put a halt on a lot of Japanaese innovation (which I've honestly preferred all these years) and now at least they're trying.   

I applaud Toyotas efforts to make a better future. Hydrogen, new battery tech, ammonia engine... It doesn't matter if their effort will be the future. What the mouth breathers fail to realize is that what matters is *they are looking* and maybe one of those programs will be a become better auto energy system. If no one is looking we'll be stuck with the same fossil fuel problems. Keep looking Toyota, and yes, keep us apprised of what you're working on because one of those solutions will be better.

Wholeheartedly agree with all the comments here. Toyota is a master of PR and spin. Trying to deflect attention of how late they were to EV's and how much money and time they've wasted on hydrogen as a fuel for ICE's.

Maybe they can also tell how their statements only a few weeks ago saying ammonia powered ICE's were going to destroy the EV market sit with today's announcement.

It should be prohibited for companies to brag about products that they may possibly be able to produce in the future.

Wow what a surprise. My monthly Toyota announcement that the future is just 4 years away. Just another nothing burger.