Quote from: kenarp on April 25, 2023, 21:18:59Ok, I made a mistake, but you guessed in the wrong direction too, it's the Z13. If you would just type "flow" into the comparison tool and hit enter, there would be such a model in the list, reviewed by NBC nonetheless. The 4070 is claimed to be 65W, but the maximum power draw of the whole system is about the same as this model, and both use 130W power supply.Quote from: S.Yu on April 25, 2023, 19:01:05Quote from: AwfulLaptops on April 25, 2023, 01:35:13The XPS 15 is one of the first laptops sporting both a Core H-series CPU and GeForce RTX 4070 GPU to be powered solely by USB-C.They're not wrong with the power supply. Asus can manage over 50% more performance in the same power envelope, see the Flow X13 review of the 13900-4070 tier. The C port is most likely sufficient, and will reduce clutter on your desktop. Going proprietary can only mean that the C port doesn't deliver enough power and will complicate things. That's not to say everything is fine, either something's wrong with the review(Ngo is one of the less reliable reviewers around), or something other than the power supply is wrong with this model. If cooling's the culprit then I suspect both hardware and software issues.
It's powered by a 130W USB-C charger.
Honestly, what's Dell trying to accomplish? A Macbook-like Windows laptop using parts nowhere nearly as efficient? And much like Apple craptops it has to be "slient" as well. It suspiciously generates far, far less noise compared to competitors and last-gen models (up to 20%).
The Legion 5 laptop with a RTX 3060 smashes this thing with 50% more performance.
Dell really needs to go back to the drawing board, or just be more sensible in their design and parts choices (getting a vapor chamber cooling system is a good start).
I have no idea what you are talking about. First, there's no ROG Flow x13 equipped with Intel Core i9 13900h, it's powdered by a Ryzen 9 7940hs. So I guess you are talking about the ROG Flow x16 which comes with a 240w adapter and a 120w tgp 4070 GPU under performance mode, according to UltrabookReview. If so,on USB-C power they tested (a 100w adapter), the Flow X16 consumes 115W in combined CPU+GPU loads (15-25W CPU + 90-100 W GPU), which said the system draws power from both the charger and the battery, leading the battery discharges quickly with roughly 1.5 hours of life at full load on Performance mode with PD power. There's nothing comparable to this 50W tgp, extremely underpowered 4070 graphics card.
Quote from: S.Yu on April 25, 2023, 19:01:05Quote from: AwfulLaptops on April 25, 2023, 01:35:13The XPS 15 is one of the first laptops sporting both a Core H-series CPU and GeForce RTX 4070 GPU to be powered solely by USB-C.They're not wrong with the power supply. Asus can manage over 50% more performance in the same power envelope, see the Flow X13 review of the 13900-4070 tier. The C port is most likely sufficient, and will reduce clutter on your desktop. Going proprietary can only mean that the C port doesn't deliver enough power and will complicate things. That's not to say everything is fine, either something's wrong with the review(Ngo is one of the less reliable reviewers around), or something other than the power supply is wrong with this model. If cooling's the culprit then I suspect both hardware and software issues.
It's powered by a 130W USB-C charger.
Honestly, what's Dell trying to accomplish? A Macbook-like Windows laptop using parts nowhere nearly as efficient? And much like Apple craptops it has to be "slient" as well. It suspiciously generates far, far less noise compared to competitors and last-gen models (up to 20%).
The Legion 5 laptop with a RTX 3060 smashes this thing with 50% more performance.
Dell really needs to go back to the drawing board, or just be more sensible in their design and parts choices (getting a vapor chamber cooling system is a good start).
Quote from: AwfulLaptops on April 25, 2023, 01:35:13The XPS 15 is one of the first laptops sporting both a Core H-series CPU and GeForce RTX 4070 GPU to be powered solely by USB-C.They're not wrong with the power supply. Asus can manage over 50% more performance in the same power envelope, see the Flow X13 review of the 13900-4070 tier. The C port is most likely sufficient, and will reduce clutter on your desktop. Going proprietary can only mean that the C port doesn't deliver enough power and will complicate things. That's not to say everything is fine, either something's wrong with the review(Ngo is one of the less reliable reviewers around), or something other than the power supply is wrong with this model. If cooling's the culprit then I suspect both hardware and software issues.
It's powered by a 130W USB-C charger.
Honestly, what's Dell trying to accomplish? A Macbook-like Windows laptop using parts nowhere nearly as efficient? And much like Apple craptops it has to be "slient" as well. It suspiciously generates far, far less noise compared to competitors and last-gen models (up to 20%).
The Legion 5 laptop with a RTX 3060 smashes this thing with 50% more performance.
Dell really needs to go back to the drawing board, or just be more sensible in their design and parts choices (getting a vapor chamber cooling system is a good start).