Quote from: Symbios on December 24, 2022, 14:51:35Who wants to buy 4 when 5 will be faster what kind of demand is that???
They demand to buy old hardware instead new!!!

Who wants to buy any new product when they know that the next one that will be released will be even faster? The Raspberry Pi 6 will be faster than the 5.

Rasperry Pi sells their previous versions still, so why wouldn't anyone buy the 4?

I've used the Raspberry Pi 4b 8GB as my actual daily driver computer. It's about as fast as a 10 year old PC, so it is good enough for web browsing and LibreOffice.

It has worked just fine for most simple tasks. Well, OK: Firefox lately crashes multiple times DAILY because Mozilla engineers are incompetent and irresponsible.

Re NUCs:
I also considered the Pentium based NUC but any and all good deals on those had evaporated, and i5/i7 NUCs just aren't competitive with laptops. A new low-end laptop e.g. $500 on sale, is faster than a NUC and you get a screen and battery, so why buy a NUC?

When I replace the Pi 4b, it will either be with an expensive laptop, or a Mac Mini running either Asahi Linux or BSD.

Good article, bad news. I have All the Pi's but will not be buying any more. Have moved to Win11 NUC 16g Ram, 500g ssd, 4xUSB 3, USB-C, 4K graphics, cooling system, etc 100 times faster... similar price to fully specked Pi4 and just a bit bigger case.  Sad end to the great SBC dream run!

I think it is foolish for this CEO to rest on his laurels like this Eben guy has done.   Just look at the RK 3588 SoC. Plus there is now many boards using those new SoCs.   The Raspberry Pi is a great board, but today it is missing out on technology that others are bringing to their much faster boards.   For instance all RK 3588 SoCs come with an embedded 6 TOPS NPU. It supports much more RAM, 8 faster cores, could mpared to the Pi's slower 4 cores.  The RK 3588 even supports a faster bus throughput.   The Raspberry Pi foundation better wake up.

Interesting to see this. You can't even get the pi 4. The price of them is also ridiculous. How much are they gone to charge for the pi 5? What happened to the 35 dollar computer? The price of them now you might as well put that money to a laptop!!!!!

Quote from: Anonymousgg on December 22, 2022, 05:31:12Upton hinted that Pi 5 will not be on 28nm. So maybe 16nm to 12nm instead. That opens the door to making it a lot better.

The wait is understandable since there's still pent up demand for Pi 4 even now.

Who wants to buy 4 when 5 will be faster what kind of demand is that???
They demand to buy old hardware instead new!!!

Raspberry Pi foundation is way behind compared to other companies:eg odroid

They updating the revisions of 4 without even bother to update the memory card controller to sdr104 like hardkernel did in the old odroid xu4
they updated the mem card controller to sdr104 in a board that was released in 2015,the raspberry pi foundation just dont care at all.

Upton hinted that Pi 5 will not be on 28nm. So maybe 16nm to 12nm instead. That opens the door to making it a lot better.

The wait is understandable since there's still pent up demand for Pi 4 even now.