Quote from: Anonymousgg on June 19, 2022, 05:44:23If it gets a price increase over Zen 3, then it has to beat Raptor Lake in single-threaded. Or "jebait" and lower the prices after Raptor Lake releases a month or two later.

Potential buyers could also wait a few months for the V-Cache launch and cheaper mobos/DDR5.

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Damn it nbc, this is such a off putting comment/forum system -_-

lol says who

So by some arbitrary and inconsequential metric you brought up it should be better than the competition, "or else" lmao

Who TF even renders, packs/unpacks, compiles code etc on one core? haha
As for gaming, I think 5800X3D finally nailed the last nail in the coffin of "SC performance is king for gaming!" nonsense many misinformed normies kept repeating.

Also you're just assuming Intel will not increase prices itself. I thin people forget how "cheap" and "great value" the 12900KS is... haha
(ofc all of these price speculations and "leaks" are worthless, we don't have official MSRP, or even product announcements, let alone products in stock and listed, in stores, on any of these parts)

Quote from: Oakman on June 19, 2022, 15:45:58Why sooo concerned about no 7700X? Who really cares?? Most won't use the power of the 7600X, and AMD yields seem to allow higher spec CPU easily, with a lot of step-ups to be available. So why should AMD cripple/demote GOOD silicon, leave $$ on the table, and give us less of a CPU?

It's not really crippling to lower clock speeds by a couple hundred MHz on the worst but intact 8-core chiplets. Crippling is when they turn an 8-core chiplet into a 4-core. Almost no reason to do so.

If AMD continues to use 8-core chiplets as it moves into Zen 5/6/7, maybe 6-core can be at budget prices while the top-end uses 3-4 chiplets.

Why sooo concerned about no 7700X? Who really cares?? Most won't use the power of the 7600X, and AMD yields seem to allow higher spec CPU easily, with a lot of step-ups to be available. So why should AMD cripple/demote GOOD silicon, leave $$ on the table, and give us less of a CPU?

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Quote from: Anonymousgg on June 19, 2022, 05:44:23Potential buyers could also wait a few months for the V-Cache launch and cheaper mobos/DDR5.

Or buy Ryzen 3000 / 5000 and DDR4.

*Potential buyers of the new CPUs who want the most performance possible

Obviously, most people on the planet do not actually need to get onto AM5 and would probably be fine with a low-end 3100, 4100, 4600G, etc.

Quote from: Anonymousgg on June 19, 2022, 05:44:23Potential buyers could also wait a few months for the V-Cache launch and cheaper mobos/DDR5.

Or buy Ryzen 3000 / 5000 and DDR4.

If it gets a price increase over Zen 3, then it has to beat Raptor Lake in single-threaded. Or "jebait" and lower the prices after Raptor Lake releases a month or two later.

Potential buyers could also wait a few months for the V-Cache launch and cheaper mobos/DDR5.