Quote from: PCWarrior on April 18, 2020, 15:43:20
3800X buyers are less value oriented - if they were value oriented they would go for a 3700X. The 3800X scoring around 35500 as a median is a skewed result as most 3800X buyers tend to pair it with better cooling solutions and overclock their cpu even a little. They also all pair it with faster than stock RAM and many with high frequency, low latency kits such as 3600MHz CL16 or 3733 CL17 improving performance further. for the record, on the same benchmark the 9900K can do over 6500 in single thread and over 40,000 even on iMacs (who we know they run it completely at stock). So the 10700K only scoring 6018 and 34221 suggests that it was running completely at stock, with power limits enforced, paired with a slow RAM kit (like 2666CL16) and some other kneecapping condition.
There appears to be an issue happening with these 10 series CPUs: they're overheating so bad, because Intel basically took 9 series CPUs and pushed up the TDP. The TIM has a realistic heat limit it can disssipate, and by allowing the CPUs to try and get to 5.3GHz, it's just overwhelming the coolers, meaning thermal throttling comes along crippling the CPU.
We all know Intel 95w meant 225w+; very few coolers could keep up to that. So 125w probably means 275w, and that is beyond any reasonable cooling solution.
Now, since the 10700k is a rewired (to ensure incompatibility) and rebranded 9900k, you're right that it will match the performance in identical configurations, but since the power consumption will be so much higher on these new chips, it appears Intel is finally succumbing to their ignoring of max-load power consumption.
Good news: if you can figure out how to cool a 300w CPU, you're good. Bad news: those cooling solutions are essentially non-existent currently (very rare, very loud, and very expensive). When these chips finally are released, they'll be tested on the best cooling available at the time by reviewers, which will finally be inadequate. I'm personally hoping it's done with a 150w cooler, since that is plenty for covering the TDP, and showing how bad Intel lies.
Depending on how long Intel keeps delaying what is basically the exact same chip they've been selling for 3 years, they might push to where AMD shows up with their 7nm refined chip, which should come along with plenty of performance, and actually adhere to a TDP that coolers can handle.