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Posted by Joe
 - June 12, 2019, 13:56:01
Quote from: em3 on June 09, 2019, 11:35:41
Quote from: Joe on June 08, 2019, 13:36:32
Aorus "crams" a GTX 1080 with a TDP of 180W into their slim X5 and X7 laptops, I own one.

And you enjoy some of the loudest fan noise around and some pretty high temperatures while Max-Q devices are generally at least not too loud

Aorus laptops have full control over the fan speed, I limit mine to 70% max, at that speed its about 45dB so its quieter than most gaming laptops.

That combined with undervolting makes the GPU top out at around 80C @ 1900MHz while being reasonably quiet, CPU boosts to 4.1GHz all cores too.

So yes, I'm very much enjoying the laptop.
Posted by em3
 - June 09, 2019, 11:35:41
Quote from: Joe on June 08, 2019, 13:36:32
Aorus "crams" a GTX 1080 with a TDP of 180W into their slim X5 and X7 laptops, I own one.

And you enjoy some of the loudest fan noise around and some pretty high temperatures while Max-Q devices are generally at least not too loud
Posted by Joe
 - June 08, 2019, 13:36:32
Quote from: em3 on June 07, 2019, 16:28:04
Quote from: Joe on June 07, 2019, 13:03:10
The problem with Max-Q BIOS is that are severly TDP limited, so 10% improvement is the same gains TSMC advertise for the jump from 16nm FF+ to 12nm.

it's not a "problem", there's no way they could cram anything else than a low TDP gpu in such a compact design. Until they start bringing liquid metal to the table or some other new futuristic cooling, less power is the only solution for powerful yet slim and compact laptops

Aorus "crams" a GTX 1080 with a TDP of 180W into their slim X5 and X7 laptops, I own one.
Posted by em3
 - June 07, 2019, 16:28:04
Quote from: Joe on June 07, 2019, 13:03:10
The problem with Max-Q BIOS is that are severly TDP limited, so 10% improvement is the same gains TSMC advertise for the jump from 16nm FF+ to 12nm.

it's not a "problem", there's no way they could cram anything else than a low TDP gpu in such a compact design. Until they start bringing liquid metal to the table or some other new futuristic cooling, less power is the only solution for powerful yet slim and compact laptops
Posted by Joe
 - June 07, 2019, 13:03:10
The problem with Max-Q BIOS is that are severly TDP limited, so 10% improvement is the same gains TSMC advertise for the jump from 16nm FF+ to 12nm.
Posted by S.Yu
 - June 07, 2019, 12:47:04
That's the point, wider design with the same TDP, the premium is a bit steep but seems reasonable compared to what Intel's asking...
Posted by Redaktion
 - June 07, 2019, 05:47:41
The findings are based on 3DMark Fire Strike averages taken from almost two dozen laptops equipped with GTX and RTX Max-Q graphics. The Turing series is better optimized for newer DX12 games where the performance benefits are much greater.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-GeForce-RTX-2080-Max-Q-is-only-5-percent-faster-than-the-GTX-1080-Max-Q-when-running-DX11-games.423145.0.html