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Posted by correction
 - Today at 14:11:23
Quote from: 192 GB RAM is nice, bc on September 09, 2026, 10:47:18because the memory speed is up to 2x faster VS desktop's 5600 MT/s, too, so, like easily 768 GB RAM then.
Correction:
Strix Halo: 8000 MT/s / 5600 MT/s = 1.43 times.
Gorgon Halo: 8533 MT/s / 5600 MT/s = 1.52 times.
(ok, then let it be 512 GB, would be good enough given the memory speed)

But check this out:
Quote from: youtube.com/watch?v=Z26kN5VfyGAAMD and the industry are pushing the Ryzen AI Max+ 495 very hard as serious AI desktops, but the marketing is getting ahead of the actual performance. I own both a 128GB Framework Desktop and a 128GB HP Zbook laptop on this platform, so I know what they can do. Yes, the huge unified memory lets you load  large models, but in many cases you're running heavily quantized versions, which inevitably sacrifice model quality. And with only ~273 GB/s bandwidth versus around 1.2 TB/s on an M5 Ultra at about €10,500 for 256GB ram, inference is simply too slow for what they are now charging. Last year, the 128GB Framework Desktop with the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 was around €2,500 now we're talking about €8,500 for 192GB. If you're a developer, you'd be far better off paying €80–€200/month for a serious AI coding subscription and getting much stronger models. And if you're a company that absolutely needs local AI for data privacy, then spend more and buy genuinely high-performance hardware. These are interesting machines, but at €8,500 they are being massively oversold. 👎
Posted by Hegarmin
 - September 09, 2026, 11:54:17
To what end?

I haven't seen the previous model, the SN77 anywhere in Europe either. And they weren't asking for a high minimum batch size, they were selling minimum 1000 models to anyone interested. I highly doubt there weren't any European resellers who couldn't have sold 1000 laptops with Strix Halo with a profit.

Also, they do have access to more sensible Strix Halo SKUs like the 388, they launched a "gaming tablet" with it. Maybe they should have focused on that.
Posted by 192 GB RAM is nice, bc
 - September 09, 2026, 10:49:43
See how these and other models compare:
artificialanalysis.ai/?models=qwen3-5-122b-a10b-non-reasoning%2Cqwen3-5-122b-a10b%2Cmimo-v2-5-0424%2Cnemotron-3-5-lightning%2Cqwen3-6-27b-non-reasoning%2Cminimax-m2-7%2Cmuse-glimmer%2Cnvidia-nemotron-3-super-120b-a12b%2Cqwen3-6-35b-a3b-non-reasoning%2Cstep-3-7-flash%2Cinkling-small%2Csolar-open2-250b%2Cqwen3-6-35b-a3b%2Cqwen3-6-27b%2Cqwen3-8-27b%2Cmotif-3%2Chy3%2Cg9v3-39a5b%2Cgemma-4-31b%2Cgemma-4-31b-non-reasoning%2Cmistral-medium-3-5%2Cling-3-0-flash%2Cgpt-oss-120b%2Cdeepseek-v4-flash%2Cqwen3-8-flash-next%2Cglm-5-3-flash%2Cqwen3-8-27b-medium&intelligence=artificial-analysis-intelligence-index#intelligence
Posted by 192 GB RAM is nice, bc
 - September 09, 2026, 10:47:18
Quotebut leaked Passmark results do indicate that the chip should be around 5% faster than the Strix Halo part.
Gorgon Halo is a software-patched Strix Halo to support more than 128 GB RAM; all Ryzen AI 400 are a rename/refresh of Ryzen AI 300 series.
Wish AMD would allow for 256 GB RAM straight away and not artificially limiting the maximum RAM config..
On desktop B850 motherboards, up to 256 GB RAM are possible, and this is on a 128-bit memory interface (aka dual-channel). Strix/Gorgon Halo use a 256-bit memory interface (aka quad-channel) (and faster RAM, too, btw.), so by this argument, up to 512 GB RAM should be possible on Strix/Gorgon Halo, and even more, because the memory speed is up to 2x faster VS desktop's 5600 MT/s, too, so, like easily 768 GB RAM then.
But, 256 GB, or more, RAM, is where Medusa Halo comes in later.

That said, 192 GB RAM is nice, because it allows to fully fit huggingface.co/unsloth/DeepSeek-V4-Flash-0731-GGUF at its native weights (162 GB) + a decent amount of context. Or any other 4-bit quant of a ~300B parameters model. Or a lower-end 4-bit quant of huggingface.co/unsloth/GLM-5.3-Flash-GGUF (IQ4_XS), tho this is where 256 GB RAM would be nice.
Posted by Shan
 - September 09, 2026, 04:24:01
Interesting times.  I either want this or the n1x system, and it all comes down to if Nvidia has a decent ARM varient of windows to offer.

Linux is great but it has always sat in a weird spot for developers.  I want visual studios (windows) android studio (windows) unreal (windows) etc etc and the AI i even want, i want to support that ecosystem.

So linux isnt on the table... at all.

So if N1X doesnt offer a stable windows solution for that, then it is pointless for me.

And i may end up going with Ryzen instead.  If a lot of people feel this way... then you end up with a lot of developers shifting to AMD to write code.

I have to wonder how dedicated Microsoft could be to supporting Nvidia when they could profit so much off the CUDA moat collapsing.
Posted by Redaktion
 - September 09, 2026, 02:17:58
Sixunited has unveiled its first AMD Gorgon Halo-powered laptop, the AXN88B. Being an ODM, the company is more likely to license its reference design out to other consumer-facing OEMs.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Sixunited-unveils-laptop-with-up-to-192-GB-RAM-and-16-core-AMD-Ryzen-APU.1393262.0.html