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Posted by Need more RAM for MoE AI
 - Today at 09:58:17
PS: The $5,229.00 price is absolutely ridiculous: For the same money you can get a desktop PC with 2*64 GB RAM (if you can find 64 GB per stick, as said, they used to sell in early 2025) + a used 3090 (=24 GB VRAM @ 936 GB/s or even 2 GPUs) or a Radeon AI PRO R9700 (=32 GB VRAM @ 640 GB/s) or a Radeon™ PRO W7900 (=48 GB VRAM @ 864 GB/s) and/or a gaming laptop with 8 GB VRAM + upgrade to 2x32 GB SO-DIMM RAM (on top of that).
Posted by Need more RAM for MoE AI
 - Today at 09:28:13
The APUs themself support up to 256 GB RAM:
Quote from: amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-7-7840u.htmlMax. Memory    256 GB
Quote from: amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/ai-300-series/amd-ryzen-ai-7-350.htmlMax. Memory    256 GB
Quote from: amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/ai-400-series/amd-ryzen-ai-7-450.htmlMax. Memory    256 GB
So this "up to 96 GB" RAM is an artificial limitation by LENOVO.. Maybe they don't want to cannibalize their expensive P16 series, but P16 supports up to 192 GB RAM.. Either way, 96 GB RAM for MoE AI LLM models are neither here, nor there.

(I remember seeing 64 GB per SO-DIMM stick (and 64 GB per DIMM stick in early 2025), but they are not selling anymore. And here is a news from 2023: "Samsung Unveils LPCAMM: up to 128GB of DDR5 for Laptops in 60% Less Space":(".. when they arrive in 2024."), but can't find 128 GB modules on a quick search either. Welp, it's the memoryageddon/RAMageddon, I guess.)

Also, what is LPCAMM2 good for when it's running only at 7500 MT/s, instead of, say, 9000-9600 MT/s and the (current) LPCAMM2 prices are 2 to 2.5 times higher than SODIMM?

But what laptop supports up to 128 GB RAM or even the full 256 GB RAM, you may ask? FRAMEWORK, CLEVO and TONGFANG:
community.frame.work/t/status-report-fw13-amd-7840-debian-trixie-hibernation-128-gb-ram-etc/69864
reddit.com/r/framework/comments/1rglnz1/128gb_memory_on_the_framework_16_laptop/
(type "128 gb" or "256 gb" into each' search)

But who does need so much RAM? If you want to run these big MoE AI LLM models locally and privately: artificialanalysis.ai/?models=gpt-oss-120b%2Cgpt-oss-120b-low%2Cgemma-4-31b%2Cgemma-4-31b-non-reasoning%2Cmistral-medium-3-5%2Cdeepseek-v4-flash-non-reasoning%2Cdeepseek-v4-flash-high%2Cdeepseek-v4-flash%2Cminimax-m2-7%2Cstep-3-7-flash%2Cmimo-v2-5-0424%2Cqwen3-6-35b-a3b%2Cqwen3-5-122b-a10b%2Cqwen3-6-27b%2Cqwen3-6-27b-non-reasoning%2Cqwen3-6-35b-a3b-non-reasoning%2Cqwen3-5-122b-a10b-non-reasoning&intelligence=artificial-analysis-intelligence-index

Running AI LLM models locally news related content: reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/top/?t=week
Posted by Redaktion
 - Today at 02:41:51
Lenovo has released a new 16-inch ThinkPad globally. Available with up to 96 GB of LPCAMM2 RAM and PCIe Gen 5 storage, the ThinkPad P16s Gen 5 AMD can also be configured with a 120 Hz VRR OLED display, a 90 Wh battery and discrete GPUs in a package that starts at around 1.75 kg.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-releases-new-16-inch-ThinkPad-globally-with-120-Hz-VRR-OLED-display-and-96-GB-LPCAMM2-RAM.1341601.0.html