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Posted by Enma45
 - Today at 14:31:46
@yee:

Need your expert advice.

I can get a ProArt PX13 halo laptop or Onexplayer 3 Arc G3 extreme handheld for roughly the same price. ~1500ish. Both come with 32 GB ram.

Which would you suggest if interested in llm usage with not much fan noise or heat? So would be using max tdp of like 25watt to 35 watts.

I know 8060s is much faster than arc b390 when you give it 80+ watts but all the lower power benchmarks to reduce fan noise and heat in a portable machine show they're much closer together.

I won't be using large models, so 128GB not necessary. The most I would be using is models that fit in 24 GB. I could probably get the PX13 with 64GB for like 400 more too but eh, not sure it's worth it.

Posted by yee
 - Yesterday at 12:50:12
Enma45, Strix Halo already runs at 8000 MT/s. LPCAM2 would make the memory being swappable/upgradable, which would, of course, be very good. But the memory bandwidth might remain the same, unless they up it to LPDDR5X-9600 MT/s, or switch to LPDDR6.

And now the major Strix Halo limitation: Only up to 128 GB RAM/unified memory. This does not offset the switch from a dense LLM to a MoE LLM: Qwen3.5-27B (27 GB at q8 quant) performs slightly better than Qwen3.5-122B-A10B (122 GB at q8 quant). The 122B runs 27B/10B = 2.7 times faster, fine, but it performs slightly worse than the 27B dense AND the RAM prices have since increased by like 4 times. So, Strix Halo's 128 GB RAM, at 256 GB/s, are neither here, not there. What is really needed is at least a 192 GB Strix Halo, then it could run a quant of the better than 27B dense performing MoE models (at least according to AA), like DeepSeek V4 Flash, MiMo-V2.5 and Minimax-M2.7 and a 256 GB RAM (yes, RAM prices..) config would fit Minimax-M3 and probably some others that are not in this:

artificialanalysis.ai/?models=gpt-oss-120b%2Cgpt-oss-120b-low%2Cgemma-4-31b-non-reasoning%2Cgemma-4-31b%2Cmistral-medium-3-5%2Cdeepseek-v4-flash-non-reasoning%2Cdeepseek-v4-flash-high%2Cdeepseek-v4-flash%2Cminimax-m3%2Cminimax-m2-7%2Cstep-3-7-flash%2Cmimo-v2-5-0424%2Cqwen3-6-27b-non-reasoning%2Cqwen3-6-35b-a3b-non-reasoning%2Cqwen3-6-35b-a3b%2Cqwen3-5-122b-a10b%2Cqwen3-6-27b%2Cqwen3-5-122b-a10b-non-reasoning&intelligence=artificial-analysis-intelligence-index

Strix Halo's 4060 Laptop performance also means not very fast prompt processing.

Basically, Strix Halo needs to double and everything, both, the memory bandwidth and the out of it resulting FPS/prompt processing speed and in memory size (to 256 GB).

PS: I see that Enma45's comment has disappeared..
Posted by Yuriy
 - Yesterday at 07:58:40
If this laptop had physical buttons, it would be perfect with its 800 CD/m2 4K IPS screen. Also, I personally love trackpoints. I've been using laptops with trackpoints for 15 years and also got a desktop keyboard with one, but the lack of physical trackpoint buttons might make this laptop dead on arrival for me.
Posted by Redaktion
 - Yesterday at 03:56:29
Lenovo has now released a new 16-inch ThinkPad internationally. Equipped with Intel Panther Lake processors and a 90 Wh battery, the ThinkPad T1g Gen 9 is also available with a 120 Hz VRR OLED display, LPCAMM2 RAM and Nvidia's new RTX 5070 12GB laptop GPU.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-releases-new-16-inch-ThinkPad-with-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-5070-12GB-and-64-GB-LPCAMM2-RAM.1327939.0.html