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Posted by halarious
 - Today at 18:16:14
Whatever was planned, doesn't matter. In the end, only the current price, that people are ready to buy a product for, matters.

The Steam Machine is like a desktop PC, but you can not upgrade and are stuck with a, low-mid perf, 8 GB VRAM GPU.
Posted by GeorgeS
 - Today at 17:30:30
BTW: for those that are interested THIS very website has a fairly GOOD "GPU Chart" that can show how well (or not!) different GPU's stack up against each other.

For reference the chart I'm looking at places:
351 - Steam Deck
297 - AMD Radeon 780M
263 - Nvidia GTX1650 Ti Max Q
174 - Nvidia GTX1070 Mobile
153 - Nvidia RTX4050 Mobile
86 -  Nvidia RTX5050 Mobile
56 -  Nvidia RTX4070 Mobile

While I have a few of the above (56,174,263,297) rather comically I use #263 the most often. LOL!
Posted by GeorgeS
 - Today at 16:41:34
Quote from: Professional Glazer on Today at 11:30:48Oh and:

Are there any more arguments left to defend Valve? They can't even get sponsored YouTubers who got sent machines free to glaze it effectively. Lmao.

No defense of Valve here. The box was never going to do 4K (much like MOST systems being sold today).

As far as "costs" and "profits" I see the long standing myth continues. LOL!!
(a quick hint is Amazons marketplace where no-name mini-pc's can be had for a 'song')

While there WAS HOPE that Valve's Steam Machine might help bring additional support for Linux Gaming in general it would appear that it will be a novelty purchase if anything.
Posted by Professional Glazer
 - Today at 11:30:48
Oh and:

Quote from: GeorgeS on Today at 01:57:14Steam is a NON-Subscription service/store front

Yea, but you don't also need subsidisation to lower hardware costs. Just having access to the economies of scale valve has, should get them significantly lower component costs than the average individual could gather. But, we're finding cheaper, more powerful machines in the EU mind you, with 20% tax included. Not US microcenter deals mind you. That's insane...

Even the they couldn't get supply components doesn't hold up. They been working on this machine since 2023! They announced this last year before the costs and supply go this dire. Who makes a public announcement without even having locking in the hardware contracts? This is a colossal fail of planning. They had plenty of time to stock up. Probably just waited till last minute to further squeeze margins and it backfired now. Just pure greed. Steam doesn't even good sales anymore.

Are there any more arguments left to defend Valve? They can't even get sponsored YouTubers who got sent machines free to glaze it effectively. Lmao.
Posted by Professional Glazer
 - Today at 11:15:27
kotaku.com/gabe-newell-valve-steam-yacht-mansion-billionaire-2000707539

According to Dave2D this will be an extremely low volume product. Aka vaporware. So it's not just the price, it's practically nonexistent too. This is flat out lying to the public, it would've been better they said that they weren't launching anything this year. They also kinda lied about it being 4k@60fps machine, even with fsr most tests are showing its too weak for it.

It's less about the price and more about the poor messaging / going silents for several months / flat out lying.
Posted by Logoffon
 - Today at 05:19:02
Quote from: TheDude on Yesterday at 20:21:36
Quote from: RedditMachine on Yesterday at 01:05:03Still way too high since back then a laptop with a 4060 was less.

Hopefully the fanboys will stop glazing the company now, but we all know that's not going to happen anytime soon.

How is understanding that thanks to AI, prices for components are through the roof is glazing Valve. It's not their fault so I don't understand why you're so salty.

Even without the "shortages" it'd still cost more than something that perform better, perhaps even with exact same configuration.

And Valve is one of the (if not exactly the) most glazed gaming companies out there. Lots of people treat them like god as if they never did anything wrong.
Posted by GeorgeS
 - Today at 01:57:14
ROTFLMAO!!! Some of the Sheeple on the internet crack me up!!! LOL!!!

Sheeple, we could ALWAYS DIY better systems for less costs then consoles! LOL!!

So WHY on earth does anyone buy a console (or Steam Machine)????

- They have ZERO interest in DIY
- They have ZERO interest in 'operating systems' and/or 'tweaks'

Ok, what about "pre-built systems"?? You can get a better "gaming PC" for less than a "Steam Machine"!!!

- (again) They may have ZERO interest in 'operating systems' and/or 'tweaks'
- They ARE interested in a all-in-one cute little box they can sit near their TV

But... but... BUT - what about the performance and meager 8GB of VRAM in 2026!?!?!?

- Have you SEEN the "Steam Hardware Survey"? When announced the SM actually outperforms a large percentage of what Steam Users ARE CURRENTLY USING!!

- Fairly obvious to everyone but many of the sheeple here that the 'Steam Machine' is NOT for those that can DIY or are looking for something 'high performance'.

Steam is a NON-Subscription service/store front that is disconnected from Sony, Microsoft & Nintendo. Steam has a VERY DEEP LIBRARY of games that might/could be played and enjoyed on the Steam Machine and as an ADDED BONUS whatever you purchase on Steam follows you to PC's if you so choose to have one that is able to play games.

Frankly if some of the hardware were not as expensive as it is right now they MIGHT OF hit the "magical" $400-600USD price point and FLEW off the shelves into eager hands however at the current price point the possible selling points are:
- Not Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo
- Large Catalog
Posted by Dupa
 - Today at 01:32:33
For this price I'd rather buy a good gaming laptop or PC connect it to tv and much cheaper option is Xbox series x or even PS5 pro for 700 rather than buy steam machine for 1100. Please. Let me live
Posted by TheDude
 - Yesterday at 20:21:36
Quote from: RedditMachine on Yesterday at 01:05:03Still way too high since back then a laptop with a 4060 was less.

Hopefully the fanboys will stop glazing the company now, but we all know that's not going to happen anytime soon.

How is understanding that thanks to AI, prices for components are through the roof is glazing Valve. It's not their fault so I don't understand why you're so salty.
Posted by Wile E
 - Yesterday at 02:22:25
750 was an OK price. 1050, not so much. Just buy a higher specced mini pc and a steam controller at this point, and install SteamOS on it. (Or any Linux distro really)
Posted by RedditMachine
 - Yesterday at 01:05:03
Still way too high since back then a laptop with a 4060 was less.

Hopefully the fanboys will stop glazing the company now, but we all know that's not going to happen anytime soon.
Posted by Redaktion
 - June 22, 2026, 21:49:47
According to Valve engineers Pierre-Loup Griffais and Yazan Aldehayyat, the price increase the Steam Machine is facing is similar to what happened with the Steam Deck.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Steam-Machine-was-originally-planned-at-around-750-but-Valve-says-it-saw-a-price-increase-similar-to-the-Steam-Deck.1326727.0.html