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Posted by opelit
 - Yesterday at 20:58:08
I mean, this are 2 (two) Xe3 cores. Lowest of Lowest possible SKU. Highest one has 12 Xe3 cores.
Posted by It should be noted
 - Yesterday at 19:21:47
Quote from: Prassel on Yesterday at 18:08:42No, it's not.
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Only in gaming the Macbook loses, because it has to use an emulation layer.

Yeh, was referring to gaming not synthetic tests.

Hard to say, if definitely it's purely due to emulation though - as there hasn't been extensive game testing comparison between the 2.

Some games aren't cpu bound at all much, so even with an emulation layer wouldn't much of a difference.


Posted by Prassel
 - Yesterday at 18:08:42
Quote from: It should be noted on Yesterday at 17:13:43That this is still faster than the igpu in the neo.

No, it's not. Check "3DMark Steel Nomad Light":

Macbook Neo: 1702 points
2 Xe3 Graphics: 1228 points

Source: youtu.be/ygZ0CayoT6s?si=t176Tkn6Hfw_9kdb&t=454

So the Macbook Neo iGPU is 40% faster, which is a lot. Only in gaming the Macbook loses, because it has to use an emulation layer. But if the app runs natively on Mac (and the above Benchmark does), it's miles ahead.
Posted by GeorgeS
 - Yesterday at 18:06:49
Sure, however lets add a few things...

- a better general reference might be the "Steam Deck" & AMD 780M/740M series vs the 840M

- surely in efforts to confuse potential customers, the Panther Lake APU's that actually HAVE decent iGPU's have an 'X' in the naming convention

- last but not least no attempt was made to use 720P or lower resolution along with 'frame gen' as many of the products with weak GPU's do to get 'playable' frame rates.
Posted by It should be noted
 - Yesterday at 17:13:43
That this is still faster than the igpu in the neo.
Posted by Redaktion
 - Yesterday at 16:03:05
While the graphics requirements of modern games continue to increase, the performance of cheaper iGPUs has stagnated for years. The best example of this is Intel's Graphics 2 Xe3, the entry-level model from the brand-new Panther Lake generation.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Warning-Stay-away-from-Intel-s-Graphics-2-Xe3.1317789.0.html