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Posted by Prassel
 - Today at 17:49:49
Quote from: Moci on Today at 17:37:28Yeah Nvidia is no saint but since they make the chips, they at least can call them whatever name they want. It is still sleazy but not illegal. Chuwi is going deep into the illegal and immoral territory. Their response has also been completely Chinese, too. Get your popcorn ready.


There - I said it. You are the next one who downplays, excuses, justifies, defends Nvidia scamming people, which is likewise illegal and immoral. You're just proving my point. Nothing more must be said.
Posted by Moci
 - Today at 17:39:39
Chuwi will now change brand name. Hey at least this wasn't milk powder or baby formula.
Posted by Moci
 - Today at 17:37:28
Quote from: Prassel on Today at 16:05:31Yes, it's very bad ... but where is the scandal for Nvidia?

Nvidia has been cheating with every Laptop GPU version, for years. Each Laptop GPU tier is 1 tier below the Desktop GPU tier (proven by the same hardware specs), and yet have the same name as the Desktop tier above. They don't even use an "-m" (mobile) in the naming anymore, and cash in a much higher price than deserved because of a seemingly "Desktop-tier" name. It's an obvious fraud.

And yet no one (or almost no one) complains about this fraud. It also affects millions more of people. And yet the fraud is being ignored by most people and tech magazines, or otherwise excused. So obviously it's "okay" to cheat if you are a big company, but a scandal if you are a small company ... where's the justice?




Yeah Nvidia is no saint but since they make the chips, they at least can call them whatever name they want. It is still sleazy but not illegal. Chuwi is going deep into the illegal and immoral territory. Their response has also been completely Chinese, too. Get your popcorn ready.
Posted by Prassel
 - Today at 16:05:31
Yes, it's very bad ... but where is the scandal for Nvidia?

Nvidia has been cheating with every Laptop GPU version, for years. Each Laptop GPU tier is 1 tier below the Desktop GPU tier (proven by the same hardware specs), and yet have the same name as the Desktop tier above. They don't even use an "-m" (mobile) in the naming anymore, and cash in a much higher price than deserved because of a seemingly "Desktop-tier" name. It's an obvious fraud.

And yet no one (or almost no one) complains about this fraud. It also affects millions more of people. And yet the fraud is being ignored by most people and tech magazines, or otherwise excused. So obviously it's "okay" to cheat if you are a big company, but a scandal if you are a small company ... where's the justice?

Posted by tomto
 - Today at 16:01:44
nope. look at the pictures of the opened devices. corebook x and corebook plus seem to have a different MB. this issue affects two completely different devices.
Posted by rd
 - Today at 15:53:21
Presuming - same motherboard with soldered CPU as in smaller ntb. Only bigger body and screen.
Posted by tata
 - Today at 14:53:16
first comments sound like some Chuwi PR to downplay the issue..?

The fact of cheating to sell something different to what is advertised, is not just misleading, it is an offence: a fraud by false representation, intending to make a gain.

Chuwi is now on my blacklist and I d recommend impacted people to request a refund so that it discourages companies to act with dishonest.
Posted by anan
 - Today at 13:33:58
This perf difference is significant. You are getting a device that is 2 GEN older. At this point you are likely better of buying an older discounted laptop.
You will get less software support and might run into weird compatibility issues, driver errors.
Regarding other factors that affect performance - you can preempt them by reading reviews and making an informed choice when buying. But this outright fraud will not surface in an unboxing/first impressions video.

TY to NC for calling this out!
Posted by Hoju
 - Today at 13:28:08
ChiCom strikes again. Trust is a currency there.
Posted by hero_1
 - Today at 12:36:06
Did you even read the article and linked sources? The difference is up to 20% Sounds you are fine with spending money for hardware you actually don't get? That's a huge mess. If a car manufacturer were to cheat in a similar way and install a 20% weaker engine, it would be a huge scandal and result in astronomical lawsuits.
Posted by Chine
 - Today at 11:49:19
What is the performance difference with laptops equipped with the advertised cpu?

In my experience, the quality of thermal paste, cooling, and other installed components, has a much higher impact than the exact cpu version.

So, just tought provoking, is it also misleading to sell a laptop with a powerful cpu but insufficient cooling, or other bottlenecks in the hardware?
Posted by DantePierttyr
 - Today at 11:28:26
I guess it has little to zero difference.
Posted by Redaktion
 - Today at 10:26:13
Oops, they did it again! The recently tested CoreBook X isn't the only device deceiving users with a more modern CPU than actually installed; the Chuwi CoreBook Plus is also affected by this CPU scam. We took a spot-check purchase from a retailer and uncovered the fraud. What was just an unfortunate isolated case now seems to be becoming systematic.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/CPU-fraud-next-round-Chuwi-CoreBook-Plus-with-supposed-AMD-Ryzen-5-7430U-also-affected.1248660.0.html