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Posted by Enrico Frahn
 - Yesterday at 17:32:35
Quote from: andy.com.au on Yesterday at 15:42:22Isn't this an EU directive? Also part of the reason the Surface Connect Port is gone too.

Don't all devices have to charge with USB from a certain date? I think the common USB-C charging standard came in 12/2024.

I could be wrong, but it should be mentioned in the article if this is the cause. Also given the devices have to be able to charge USB-C it isn't as if they aren't able to be charged.

It is mentioned in the article: "(...) supports EU initiatives to reduce electronic waste". It's an initiative, not directive. There's no EU law against including chargers in the box.
Posted by Bradavon
 - Yesterday at 17:17:54
Quote from: andy.com.au on Yesterday at 15:42:22Isn't this an EU directive? Also part of the reason the Surface Connect Port is gone too.

Don't all devices have to charge with USB from a certain date?
No.

Devices need to offer USB C charging, which it has for years.

It's not all devices either, phones and cameras. Laptops was coming latter, which it might do now.

MacBooks still have MacBook chargers, plus USB C.
Posted by Bradavon
 - Yesterday at 17:14:19
This is all just a tactic to put the price up 49 euros.

Like the article says, people don't already have these chargers like phones.

It's not a Surface Pro 12. It's a Surface Pro 12 inch. Loads of journalists have managed to get this wrong.
Posted by andy.com.au
 - Yesterday at 15:42:22
Isn't this an EU directive? Also part of the reason the Surface Connect Port is gone too.

Don't all devices have to charge with USB from a certain date? I think the common USB-C charging standard came in 12/2024.

I could be wrong, but it should be mentioned in the article if this is the cause. Also given the devices have to be able to charge USB-C it isn't as if they aren't able to be charged.
Posted by indy
 - May 23, 2025, 21:02:18
Soon, no screen! Then, no battery! Eventually you will pay $2000 for the privilege of owning Microsoft Sticker, which you place on your forehead.
Posted by Worgarthe
 - May 23, 2025, 19:42:04
Next without a motherboard please, but increase its price for 50% 🙏
Posted by Redaktion
 - May 23, 2025, 19:33:12
It's a well known fact that many smartphones don't come with a charger included in the box. Microsoft is now following suit and ships the new Surface Laptop 13 and Surface Pro 12 without a suitable power adapter, at least in Europe.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-s-bold-move-Expensive-Surface-Laptop-13-now-ships-without-a-charger.1023476.0.html