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Posted by Drew

- August 02, 2022, 19:02:57

Looking at Lenovo's new T14s line with either an i7-1270 or i7-1280 but this article seems to say that it's not worth it and go with cheaper i5 chip -- really?

Posted by Jofii

- May 24, 2022, 14:09:15

Hi
I look to pay Dell laptop touch screen 15" or up . Under 1200$
Can i get some help please?
Thanks

Posted by Jimothy

- May 23, 2022, 16:49:20

this goes back at least as far as 8th gen in my experience and also 11th gen

the i5 mobile chips in lenovo laptops (with terrible cooling systems designed by toddlers) run cooler and faster than the i7 chips because i7 turbo is much more aggressive, and throttling happens almost immediately. Single core the i7 11th gen scores slightly faster than i5, but multi the i5 beats the i7 by a ridiculous 20%

For those commenting that they should have used cinebench r20 or r23 - you're right... but I can also tell you that in my testing the trend continues when doing the test in r23!

many other reviewers have noted this over the years... just search youtube

Posted by Flips 712

- May 22, 2022, 03:08:19

If you were buying a 13-14" Thinkpad X, Carbon X, or Yoga model, what specific chips from Intel and AMD are recommended to avoid thermal throttling and will allow a 3 monitor setup? I'm a non-tech remote worker trying to be an educated buyer. Thanks

Posted by daw

- May 22, 2022, 00:23:01

Quote from: Dorby on May 20, 2022, 18:20:13
"Customers do not get any indication of the performance when they buy a new laptop"

This is the most important sentence in the whole article. No indication of battery life either.

Personally, I don't really care. To me, laptops are suited for travel and typical office work, but shouldn't ever be regarded as a proper PC. So when I buy laptops, I look at the general feature set and price and I'm never terribly disappointed. My desktop gets much more thought put into it.

Posted by Watzupken

- May 21, 2022, 07:13:42

The results are not surprising. Intel has been pushing the power limit just so that it allows their CPU to boost to a higher clock speed. It just shows that Intel likely made a lot of compromises so that they can get their 10nm out the door. I feel Alder Lake is suited for either desktop or laptops with beefy cooling. In slim laptops, the CPU can only sustain its boost clock for a short period of time, which means if you are running a sustained load, performance is going to tank once it hits the thermal threshold.

Posted by Roger B

- May 20, 2022, 20:13:31

Notebookcheck continues to show its bias'. And why the heck are you guys even using Cinebench R15, the version is from 2013, and has been replaced not once, but twice by R20 and R23.

Posted by Logoffon

- May 20, 2022, 18:39:25

This inefficiency shenanigans seems to be an increasingly common trend for companies that are not named AMD or Apple.

Posted by LL

- May 20, 2022, 18:23:40

So the mess with Nvidias now reach this Intels.

To tell the truth it was already apparent in other AMD and Intel models, just not so big differences.

Posted by Dorby

- May 20, 2022, 18:20:13

"Customers do not get any indication of the performance when they buy a new laptop"

This is the most important sentence in the whole article. No indication of battery life either.

Posted by Redaktion

- May 20, 2022, 17:20:28

We reviewed a few new Alder Lake-P CPUs from Intel over the last two weeks and our concerns are supported by the test results. The power consumption is very high, which is a challenge for the cooling solutions. It is also a problem for customers, because a Core i5 can be more powerful than a Core i7 and there can be massive performance differences in general.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Core-i5-beats-Core-i7-Alder-Lake-P-creates-problems-for-manufacturers-and-customers.621251.0.html