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Posted by MarcoCT
 - December 12, 2018, 16:19:20
The current Ryzen mobiles are not competitive compared to Intel due to the worse IPC, which is quite important on a laptop with a design constraint of about 45W TDP.
The next 7nm should be quite interesting as it brings TDP down substantially, so should make Intel have to finally compete in the mobile market, hopefully bringing down the prices/increasing performance like what happened in desktop.
Posted by M2018
 - October 09, 2018, 13:57:17
@WB
"first of all, "shitty laptops", "single channel" and such is a meme, nothing more. same configs as in intel models. no problem for customers."

You did not get his point. He meant that AMD CPUs are ONLY in shitty laptops!
Posted by william blake
 - October 08, 2018, 01:47:44
@MrClippy
(sorry for my english i am not sure how readable is this)
-first of all, "shitty laptops", "single channel" and such is a meme, nothing more. same configs as in intel models. no problem for customers. consumes more at idle? so? server architecture flaw, no big deal. sell it to us for a slightly less and we'll be ok.
-second, what r&d are you talking about? raven ridge is a raven ridge. how about just produce and sell? amd failed this simple task. a new low in mobile market, how about that? with times better arch than bulldozer. no words.
-third, anti-consumer practice from amd.
1. do you know how crappy is bristol/stoney ridge in 2018? the top a12=pentium n5000 in productivity. and consumes way more energy. and they sell it for more money!
2. 25x20 lie. they divided peak productivity by idle platform(!) power and call it efficiency. kaveri-carrizo 3.5x jump? sure i believe you. and its not a "our goal", its industry goal, if you count memory, psu and mobo consumption. later they divided productivity  by tdp and call it efficiency again in athlon vs pentium marketing. just forgot to measure consumption, not a big deal who cares.
3. non open politics. no plans to raise on mobile market? say it to customer. put ryzens in some laptops? give us names and model numbers. instead of this i read about fastest mobile cpu and how they proud strong and leadership s*** like that. aaand no questions from media to amd about this.
..
ill tell you why i am so mad. i bought many(literally many) high-end laptops for friends, coworkers and for any who asked me for help in the last 10-15 years. all with inlel for obvious reason. and when ryzen appeared i decided to buy my first ever high-end(i mean cpu speed, not gaming or made of titanium) amd laptop for myself. its like a quest you know, a new quest and i was very excited about it. just want 17 inches ips desktop replacement. and every time since ~the new year i told myself "no big deal i can wait for another month, im sure i can buy it soon". now it is october and my nerves are not the same. if I knew that would happen I would have brought some intel a year ago. right with the new 8250u or old 7300h,7700hq i dont care.
im still waiting because if I buy intel now, it means that I screwed up the year and failed the quest. f*** me. i see lisa su smile in my dreams already and she said f*** you customer.
Posted by MrClippy
 - October 07, 2018, 08:58:40
Quote from: william blake on October 05, 2018, 05:18:33
new lenovo 17-330 with bristol ridge. no ryzen. inspiron 5775 disappeared from the market. no vivobook 17 . no aspire 5/7 with ryzen. zero information about 45w mobile. same chip btw, the only chip, not much r&d needed. after a YEAR. amd radeon mobile-28nm chips everywhere in a newest laptops.
amd engineers-good job guys, well half of you, rtg guys are not on the top.
amd management=garbage.
so i dont know what to say about future 7nm. maybe I'll watch weird perpetual  Lisa Su smile and listen to the infinite we are proud, proud proud, leadership, proud proud, and again not see my desired products? I don't even know the face of the head of Intel by the way , but he sells the goods to me on demand.

I'd say AMD aren't in a hurry to put out new Ryzen processor laptops.

Look at it from AMD's perspective. The laptop market seems to all look distastefully at your product; they all have seen your past products so when they see any AMD product, they will think cheap, and low quality. Most of the notebookreview forum poster will s*** on AMD products; even as the new Ryzen 2000s came out, the stigma is that it still is a value brand and lags generations behind Intel. And then there's the laptop manufacturers; they have all historically taken your CPUs and APUs and done them no favours by slapping at most maybe 2 fans and a single heatpipe and the crappiest RAM and HDD they could find. As a company, would you want to spend the R&D cost and time into developing (which they have done to some extent) AND the cost of manufacturing a real good mobile CPU, but then have the manufacturers put them in shitty laptops and then have the market scoff at the final product in disgust?

So I believe that AMD currently are focusing all R&D and silicon production into the server and computer processor market. The reason is that they are attempting to beat Intel at something, so that they can shake off the past stigma of being the bottom of the barrel hardware company. When they've finally beaten Intel in the server market, and the CPU market - and I really mean beat Intel in terms of performance, number of cores, and price/value - only then will manufacturers start maybe thinking AMD processors are worth the time and money to develop proper laptops for them.
Posted by william blake
 - October 05, 2018, 05:18:33
new lenovo 17-330 with bristol ridge. no ryzen. inspiron 5775 disappeared from the market. no vivobook 17 . no aspire 5/7 with ryzen. zero information about 45w mobile. same chip btw, the only chip, not much r&d needed. after a YEAR. amd radeon mobile-28nm chips everywhere in a newest laptops.
amd engineers-good job guys, well half of you, rtg guys are not on the top.
amd management=garbage.
so i dont know what to say about future 7nm. maybe I'll watch weird perpetual  Lisa Su smile and listen to the infinite we are proud, proud proud, leadership, proud proud, and again not see my desired products? I don't even know the face of the head of Intel by the way , but he sells the goods to me on demand.
Posted by Redaktion
 - October 05, 2018, 00:56:05
AMD has a very favorable position on the CPU market, especially now that Intel is going through rougher times caused by shortages. The red team should be able to increase the market share with the release of its 7 nm Ryzen 3000, Threadripper 3000 and EPYC "Rome" CPUs, plus the Instinct GPUs in early 2019.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-will-showcase-the-first-7-nm-Ryzen-3000-CPUs-at-CES-2019.337008.0.html