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Posted by Terry

- August 10, 2023, 03:16:21

Quote from: Jeff Carlton on August 03, 2023, 18:20:29Which Model Y? There are so many configurations, with some having different battery chemistries. Was it a sold as a "long range" varient?

absolutely. And what size wheels spec. Makes a difference as well as who drives etc etc. Its all b/s when you think of all the variables. Its just junk journalism.

Posted by Unfun

- August 07, 2023, 15:08:37

But the Tesla still has better range with a similar sized battery.
I'm a future ID.4 owner, but "measured Vs official range" doesn't matter, except in a legal context. Tesla is more efficient, that's their main strength. The have good efficiency compared to other cars in their classes.

Posted by Bill

- August 06, 2023, 20:33:14

Ik haal gemiddeld 316 mijl over een volledig jaar met mijn Tesla model Y

Posted by Reinier

- August 06, 2023, 13:39:40

Quote from: Eric on August 06, 2023, 00:30:06My lifetime efficiency in my Model Y is 240 Wh/mi at 23k miles. 75000 ÷ 240 = 312.5 mile range.

Measured by the car or measured independently?

Posted by Eric

- August 06, 2023, 00:30:06

My lifetime efficiency in my Model Y is 240 Wh/mi at 23k miles. 75000 ÷ 240 = 312.5 mile range.

Posted by Jeremy

- August 04, 2023, 16:59:55

It's about what I expect from Tesla and seeing as how they're currently facing class action lawsuits about this issue, maybe they will be required to revise their range estimates.

The fact that Ford out performed their range estimates implies that manufacturers can provide a realistic estimate or an overinflated estimate as Tesla has done. Let's hope people remember that they now have options other than Tesla which has mostly not followed through on their promises to make affordable long range electric vehicles.

Posted by Hans Vincent

- August 04, 2023, 15:16:23

Dear Bert,
That is right to the point.
There must be another reason for their glass roof, since this is never compatible with "maximising ev-energy efficiency" (bad/no insulation, a lot more weight, etc...), whatever they are trying to tell us.

Posted by Bert Hogendoorn

- August 04, 2023, 07:54:18

I have had both 2023 AWD Ioniq 5 and now my 2023 Tesla AWD Long range (Fremont built with 82KWH gross Panosonic batteries) Canada now Imports 77KWH Gross LG battery in the same model and the one thing that everyone forgets is the Glass roof, regardless of temp if the sun shines the AC works harder and in winter the reverse is true. Improve your range by using a reflective insulating glass roof cover and you'll see 11% range improvement in summer (temps over 30C) and 14% improve in winter temps under 4deg C.

Forget EPA as the industry has two methods both can sway the results either way, no consitantant comparible testing, that is EVA'S fault, just like gas mileage, which they finally fixed somewhat a few years ago, no they need to fix this whole EV range thing before we fault manufacturers.

Posted by Matthew B

- August 04, 2023, 01:42:15

EPA average range combined city and highway driving

But it's better to just live in the same place you work and use a bike.

Posted by Praveen

- August 04, 2023, 00:32:49

You are suggesting EPA is fraudulent and corrupt and is not standardised. You testing methodology should be superior to EPA. Could you please share. I have seen better FUDs.

Posted by Nick Defabrizio

- August 03, 2023, 22:08:49

I am surprised about the Ioniq5...I have the new Ioniq 6; which is the same drivetrain as the Ioniq 5 but much more aerodynamic body style. It is advertised at 320 or so miles range but I have been averaging close to 400 miles this summer. I drive reasonably and use A/C from time to time and use regen braking a lot. The key is that I have been averaging approximately 5 miles per kwh...so the 77 kw battery gets me close to 400(although in practice I keep it charged between 20-80%). Too little attention is paid to efficiency (e.g., miles per kWh) as opposed to pure range. I don't know if another EV with better efficiency than the Ioniq 6. The aerodynamic shape and regen braking are important.

Posted by Jeff Carlton

- August 03, 2023, 18:20:29

Which Model Y? There are so many configurations, with some having different battery chemistries. Was it a sold as a "long range" varient?

Posted by Pcossie

- August 03, 2023, 14:09:53

Is this a reliable source as ive seen u tube videos where tesla has easily out performed its competitors and theres no efficiency figures provided either .

Posted by Dave Grohl

- August 03, 2023, 06:59:35

Quote from: CC on August 02, 2023, 22:31:50Range loss with a fully blasting AC is probably similar to fully blasting heat. They didn't test at hot conditions but I'd think 110 degrees would be similar to 30 degrees as far as range is concerned.

The range loss in the cold weather is not because of using the heater. The batteries perform worse in cold climates.

Posted by Smad

- August 03, 2023, 01:50:32

Yes pls as the author kind of suggests, go ahead with other EV cars and good luck :-)