Quote from: Neenyah on Today at 13:45:01it can't be turned off at all: www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/copilot-plus-pcs?r=1#faq2

This page describes only one threat of impossible turn-off: "On devices that are not powered by a Snapdragon® X Series processor, installation of a Windows update will be required to run Recall."

This would mean that Recall might be deactivated whenever a Windows update is not being installed.

Even so, when forced on us, I will check whether Recall Windows Services can be deactivated permanently.

You can go ahead and look for laptop lists that meet other criterias that are more to your liking.

I don't really get why you complain about this list not adhering to your specific needs as if other people couldn't have other needs and find this list helpful.

Some of your complaints are weird 60+fps is playable, even 30fps is fine for an fps game.

No pen support aaahhhhhh
lol it has less features than the previous version

Hubble is an optical telescope with a replacement due shortly, Bluetooth has a 100m range none of this seems to tie together at all, 96 satellites to track a device that sells for $40 with no subscription would make zero sense unless this is April the first.

Quote from: Neenyah on Today at 13:13:29ShutUp10++

If this is your level of configuration, you fail. One needs to configure without using softwares (other than scripts collecting what otherwise would be done manually). For starters, see

home.snafu.de/jasiek/Windows10Telemetry.html

Windows 11 needs (just) a few more settings, which I have not compiled on a webpage yet.

QuoteIt can be turned off, it can't be removed so it stays there in the OS, thus again - literal definition of a bloat.

By that definition, indeed (for most things).

QuoteAnd "bug" will happen sooner or later when it will activate itself on its own after a random update,

Such bugs in Windows are rare but there have been exceptional intentional code changes:

- during some major updates when Windows changes its appended name, such as 23H2
- the task scheduler's top level tasks tend to be reactivated unasked

Quotesimilar to Apple's recent bug of restoring long-deleted photos on iPhones and iPads.

I do not recall such a Windows bug for Windows Vista to 11. (There were the CPU bugs Meltdown, Spectre etc. though.)

Quote from: Neenyah on Today at 13:13:29

Quote from: RobertJasiek on Today at 13:01:14We need to await whether this can be deactivated by deactivating one or several Windows Services, group policy object settings or GUI settings. So far, nobody could say anything about such, if any, possibilities.

It can be turned off, it can't be removed so it stays there in the OS...

Ok, so about this - it can't be turned off at all: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/copilot-plus-pcs?r=1#faq2

It's possible to just turn off some parts of logging or temporarily pause logging, but it's always active. Try to debloat that.

Quote from: Hotz on Today at 13:31:43But you probably meant another issue with "unauthorized access to encrypted data". I do not know any details about that, sorry. That issue might still exist.

This: researchers find unfixable bug in apple computers (Low Level Learning @ YT) ?

Nothing official from Apple, they are aware about it since December 2023 but no update was pushed (or it was but everyone ignores it which I find unlikely). M4 is supposed to have no problem of that kind, time will tell.

sorry @ edhun:

I've mixed up your question with something else: I thought you were talking about the recent issue of allegedly deleted photos reappearing on iPhones again (which is an issue on 2nd hand devices). And only that issue was fixed yesterday.

But you probably meant another issue with "unauthorized access to encrypted data". I do not know any details about that, sorry. That issue might still exist.