Quote from: paviko on May 08, 2024, 18:02:24Too little, too late. Apple is already on 2nd gen TSMC 3 with M4. This one is on 4 years old tech (TSMC 4 is like TSMC 5). Slower single threaded, multi threading 12 HP core comparable to 4HP + 4LP in Apple SoC. Price higher than M3 Air at the level of more powerfull M3 Pro.
If you don't want Apple, there are a lot great cheap Amd/Intel laptops for half the price - with excellent battery life >12h. Just check notebookcheck reviews.
Erm, so I honestly don't get the point of using 4 year old node fab tech. Yes, and? Nobody is currently using TSMC 3nm, not even your AMD/intel laptops. Apple has always been ahead of ever else here. And what's wrong with using an older node? You realize using the latest and greatest means the products that are using it are going to be expensive.
M4 is barely any improvement at all, btw. It gets +50% in multithreaded just by adding 2 extra e-cores alone. Seems to be barely any single threaded ipc gains. The 4x GPU improvement using same 10 core GPU probably is something that isn't done in h/w on the m3 such as RT workload, meaning barely any raster improvement. Not saying this is the end of apple, even if they're stagnating a bit. After all, intel did 5 years of skylake cores and still surviving just fine.
I am no fan of qcomm. I do think it's gonna fail but not so much the hardware being so terrible but more due to Microsoft and windows on arm not being on the same level or state of optimization that apple has done with macOS and their silicon.
Not sure why you seem so upset. We don't know the real pricing yet afaik. But if it's a huge fail, they're gonna have to be forced to price drop products to netbook celeron category, which means savings for us customers. I think 12 arm cores for $650 isn't too bad. But again, we'll have to wait and see how it goes. I've no doubt they'll initially try to charge much higher.. then if nobody buys into them, the fire sales may start. :)