Microsoft's Program Manager Aria Carley has confirmed that it would not be possible to bypass Windows 11's TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot requirements once the OS launches some time in October. Insider builds can currently be installed on a wider range of Intel and AMD CPUs, but the OS will support only Intel 8th gen and above and AMD Ryzen 2000 and above consumer processors at launch with no way to bypass these enforcements.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Windows-11-s-strict-hardware-requirements-cannot-be-bypassed-Microsoft-admits-We-know-it-sucks-we-will-still-block-you.552733.0.html
I just don't see the issue with supporting hardware as long as you have a TPM of the required version. I run a Dell Precision 3520 and my CPU is from the generation before what they allow. It's absolute bullshit that I shouldn't be allowed to upgrade if I so desire. This OS has already been seen running on a freakin Raspberry Pi 4b in several instances so it has nothing to do with demanding higher-level hardware. It's literally them just blocking it because they don't feel like supporting certain things.
Definitely won't be upgrading.
Microsoft's attitude has probably finished me as a user of any of their products. I built my own PC which is more than capable of doing anything I ask of it. The processor has more than three times the speed required four times the memory and more than 1000 times the data storage capacity. However it won't meet their requirements. Drivers and software are all checked for updates on a daily basis, as is my OS. I run more than adequate security in place. I am now just researching an alternative OS.
All that inclusive crap from Hollywood and big companies and we are left out because we are not rich enough to have a 3 or younger computer... Isn't it stupid my i7 7700 isn't cool enough for Microsoft but some crappy 30$ CPU will run it, just because it is newer, not faster, not more efficient or something related to the functional architecture of the device or the native instructions... Just due to their versions...
It's stupid first gen Ryzen isn't supported. That wasn't that long ago. I went ahead and grabbed a b450 board and Ryzen 3600x to replace my 1700x and b350 board, gave me an excuse to upgrade but still shouldn't have had to. First gen Ryzen is still plenty relevant and second gen Ryzen is the exact same architecture just a few nm smaller. How you going to support that and not the original?
It's a good time to try Linux on your older machines, such as Linux Mint.
Windows 11 = Vista. They just moved the buttons around and added new wallpapers/icons.
After 28 years of Windows (3.1 to Win 10) I shall not be installing Win 11.
All of my systems will in future run a Linux Distro.. I'm quickly going up the learning curve with Linux, and so far I'm very impressed.
Microsoft today "Bye bye marketshare"
Microsoft in a year "Okay, here is Windows 11 Lite"
Don't believe the hype!!
As a prior employee of Microsoft for 3 years in the 'Debug & Development' team, let me be the 1st to tell you something.
MICROSOFT DOES NOT BOAST PUBLICLY ABOUT ROCK SOLID CODING, OR THE LACK OF SPECIFIC MEASURES TO BYPASS A SYSTEM REQUIREMENT! This is one of the tactics they used during Windows XP, and Windows 7 pre-deployment interviews! They have so many security leaks in their engineering department, so they try to run damage control prior to major exploits that have been discovered, identified, and ultimately cannot be removed without a big service pack.
They have a completed Windows 11 architecture and the programmers are way to uptight to undo a fully developed product this close to release. They have tried in the past and it led to major delays on a ready for retail product. When a flaw is found by us that allows us access to areas of the OS that no normal user should know of, that exploit spreads in house like a raging case of herpes, BUT the NDA we sign says that we cant share or reveal the flaw until launch day has passed. I GUARANTEE you (hint hint) that there are as many as 3 different methods or bypassing both TPM and Processor requirements, but the only Achilles is that AFAIK these 3 ALL will only work on a Retail, (Pro only not Home) or Enterprise image made from a NON-UPGRADE iso. Supposedly MS is not gonna make the retail iso available for download without purchasing it and a license key directly. (So that wont be too hard to acquire!)
Be patient peeps, and i promise you that through a few intricate edits to the unpacked image, which arent extremely TRICKY... so much as VERY METICULOUS attention to detail will be needed. And my source informed me that failing to edit perfectly will render your pc unusable due to the install being corrupted and you will lose any and all data on your Hd, cuz it will require an Fdisk to start over. But ignore their claim, because as i said, so far unless ANYTHING BIG changes, (never gonna happen) there are already at least 3 privilege escalation methods that will allow you to touch the internals and if not remove... at least disable those 2 requirements, with only a slight performance loss for altering them. And yes its confirmed that these are not Beta or Insider copies, but the soon to be released in Oct. Retail release. Enjoy...
-POI - Microsoft is one of the only companies that LITERALLY has a MAJOR service pack/Security patch already developed, and tested BEFORE the actual launch date for their new OS releases!
This begs the question of what will happen to the users testing Windows 11 on unsupported devices. Will they keep receiving Dev Channel updates after the official release?
Anyway I keep thinking that Windows 11 is just one big stunt to sell new devices and keep OEMs happy... In six months to one year they will suddenly "discover" that older devices can install Windows 11 after all, but at that point will people really care?
Just UPGRADED to a Macbook pro and WOW I will not be going back to windows anytime soon. I have a trusty HP Elitebook with windows 11 insider preview updates and will keep that as a spare.
Windows 11 is going to be the most pirated Microsoft operating system of all time, simply because:
Microsoft's CPU and TPM "requirements" are arbitrary and have no basis whatsoever in what hardware can and can't successfully run the OS.
I guarantee that within a day of the offical release/RTM of Windows 11, patched .iso files will appear online that bypass the arbitrary "requirements" that check for CPU and TPM. Mark my words, Windows 11 will be installed on a ton of computers that allegedly don't meet the system requirements.
The only question is, will Windows 11 be as big a black eye for Microsoft as Windows ME, Windows Vista, and Windows 8?
You can find the link to the tutorial at the end
I am using Official Win 11 on my old Surface Pro 3 with intel i5 4xxx series through OFFICIAL updates using an offline script to join the Dev channel,then reboot, and then just update from the update section in control panel. And Win 11 works great so far although in the last weeks there were some minor errors, now works much better.So no, it is not true that you can not run it on unsupported devices, it is perfectly possible and works perfectly.Bad move from Microsoft because it is EASY to do.
Hope this can be useful for you guys
wwwDOTgoogleDOTcom/amp/s/winaero.com/how-to-enable-windows-11-dev-channel-on-unsupported-device/amp/
Simple Answer!
Ubuntu Linux Workstation running Libre Office (compatible with Microsoft Office).
Its all free.
Why are people and companies still using Microsoft.
The decision not to support older hardware makes perfect sense if the system is lighter and MSFT disposes of legacy features and some (or all) of the backwards compatibility. So please provide a true NT 7 kernel instead of what you did when W10 was released (for the record they renamed NT 6.4 to NT 10 and said it's a completely new system).
NT 6.0 - Vista
NT 6.1 - W7
NT 6.2 - W8
NT 6.3 - W8.1
NT 6.4 - W10 (aka NT 10 - bravo marketing)
I'm 100% certain that nothing that actually makes sense will happen and Microsoft will again release a refurbished NT6 kernel and market it as something innovative.
But hey, making changes and writing new code does not make as much money as doing half (or less) the work and using clever marketing tricks. It's not Microsoft who made this possible, but you dear consumers ;)
Cheers.
BTW Linux still isn't a system for everyone.
If I upgrade through The insider program, I'm still trying to figure out what happens when the full finished product comes out?
I have Windows 10 pro, would there be any worry of me losing that after the testing period is over? I want to test Windows 11 out but I don't want to end up getting downgraded or something at the end of the testing period.
If it's possible to Pirate it without too much hassle I would be open to that. I'd rather not have to honestly. I may just keep Windows 10 forever.
I have a 4th generation core i7 processor, Nvidia gt750 graphics card and 16 gigs of RAM with 1 TB SSD. It's a MacBook pro but I only run Windows on it I hate Apple.
F Microsoft! I am 46 years old. I have been using Windows since I got my first computer which was a Compaq and had Windows 3.1 on it. I consider myself at this point an expert when it comes to Microsoft especially Windows. I was always very reluctant about getting an Apple. I really couldn't stand them. But I honestly couldn't give you a real reason why. Except maybe knowing how difficult it would be for me to have to retrain my brain and knowing how long of a process it's been for me up to this point with learning and becoming very smart with Windows. But then I finally took the plunge after going through so many computers because of all of Microsoft's bullshit. This is as truthful as I can be... I'm happy I did. I haven't touched my Windows laptop since! The difference is vast and so is the learning curve, but the overall quality and feel is so many worlds apart, it incredible. I still have my new Lenovo laptop for a backup and for my wife to work from home but otherwise, seriously... F Microsoft!
Everybody who switches to a mac... you do know that you are switching to a company that is even more restrictive about what the customer can do with the devices they bought than Microsoft?
I mean, MS setting minimum requirements is not new or sinister, but Apple even sets requirements about what you can and cannot do or install on your machine for arbitrary reasons.
Been running Winows 11 preview with correct hardware for 1 month now. First this is not Windows Vista (hated that) it is very stable now and tpp has been around for very long time but the people who it from being used are the same ones who want to stay anonymous from first time.
It's been a long time coming but it will be nice to see who those idiots real names are and start catching the hackers while enjoying a secure operating system. And locking to your phone is real nice. Apps run fine off phone and even go full screen. This has been alpha mode but updates trickle in adding function all the time. Windows games work great so no complaints there.
My system was gotten because buying new video card was not possible without more than $1000 for a card so went to B&H and for a little more got it 10850k with 3070 and 32 gig ram and M.2 v4 SSD and steam punk gear and future proof system. So now is the time to upgrade anyway. Sub $2000 systems with watercooling and way better than what I had before are available till people start snatching them up. Also newegg has them. 11 is worth it. And yes I have been building own systems since Altair so I know how to do that.
Good. It's about time Microsoft makes Windows more secure. Anyone not using TPM or Secure Boot are probably on Linux anyway and anyone with old hardware can just use Windows 10 until its support ends by which point they'd have upgraded.
This will allow Microsoft to compete with Apple more on security
Windows more secure ;) you know the people running Linux have their systems more secure and do not use tpm or secure boot, it's just a way to force you to get better hardware so you don't complain w11 runs like crap
There is a bypass to put win11 install.wim into win10 installer. But they might brick that systems so watch out and go offline.
I already bypass it.. simple if you do research 🍻
Old wise man once say: Give the customers what they want.
Of cource we can bypass those limitations, ezpz Microsoft, just give up
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Glad I recently loaded PopOS Linux on my Lenovo notebook. Don't think I will use Windows 11 as a primary OS unless forced to at work.
All in all, it has more to do with the fascist stuff going on today. The vacine or you will not fly, get a job. And much more. (Show us your papers) nazism. The will be more junk in those files that will allow them and the govt to spy on you without really knowing. Do you really want to lose all your freedom. If so, then you are worthless and don't need to live as a free man, but as the slave you will be.
1984 and big brother will think for you.
I have a late-2019 9th Gen intel desktop rig that normally runs Arch but I wanted to check out Win 11. This machine has all of the hardware-based security features demanded by MS. Downloaded and installed the latest Win 11 preview ISO, no problem. It runs, no problem.
But I'm used to a decent UI, such as KDE Plasma, Win 7 or even Win 10. It continues to hide and /or eliminate configuration from the user. It sucks in every regard. It sucks, and what tops all is I can't relocate the darned taskbar to the top where Gawd intended it to be. Instead, Win 11 provides a funky-looking, phony Latte dock imitator whose functions are few and far from flawless.
So for myself, it is thumbs down for the UI on my 11th Gen desktop, and thumbs down for my 4th Gen laptop for it's MS-generated disability of running Win 11. That's OK. Linux runs like ma bat outta hell on both machines.
And I predict the flood of Linux newcomers will be insane.
Definately time to switch to Linux, I've started using Windows 10fx, totally free, very compatible with windows software, with a very familiar windows 10 feel throughout. Microsoft is going to lose a lot by leaving a huge chunk of users out of this.
Why they didn't do Windows 11 Secure (with the TPM and Chip support that they have already annouced) and a Windows 11 version that doesn't rely on these technologies (kinda Home/Pro setup). This would show some appreciation for those of us that want to upgrade but simply can't get new hardware.
Truly terrible Microsoft.
>:( really great. I have 3 laptops in my family. All are going to be door stops shortly.
What a way to sell new laptop's.
I would go to Unix if I understood what has to happen to do it. >:( >:( >:(
I have 8 GB RAM, a TPM 2.0, UEFI-bios (latest DELL update June 2021) - everything, BUT a 7th gen INTEL >:(
In 2023 you can pirate Windows 11 copies that have tpm removed as a nice eff you bonus finger to M$!!