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HP EliteBook 845 G10 review: The almost perfect business laptop with AMD Zen4

Started by Redaktion, August 15, 2023, 02:50:36

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LL

30 comments with this one. Maybe someday we can all make a Notebookcheck meet up :o)))

Neur123

Is the ram for the IGPU still limited to only 512 MB like in previous models? This is a bios setting.

Dummy user

Quote from: Neur123 on August 18, 2023, 13:06:52Is the ram for the IGPU still limited to only 512 MB like in previous models? This is a bios setting.

Yes, it is but system RAM can be used dynamically with practically no limit.

Dummy user

Quote from: LL on August 17, 2023, 22:47:2430 comments with this one. Maybe someday we can all make a Notebookcheck meet up :o)))

It's a very decent laptop but not perfect, so people are indeed invested.

I have it and outside of the artificially limited CPU clock speed issue (which is likely to be fixed sooner or later), there's nothing I could really complain about. I'm not a fan of a USB-C port being used as a power connector because it feels somewhat feeble, that's it.

The display is excellent.
The speakers are amazing.
The keyboard is really nice (though I hate that the Insert key is now Fn + F10).

People could find a missing MicroSD card slot and missing LAN a concern but both can be fixed by buying an adapter.

Neur123

Quote from: Dummy user on August 18, 2023, 15:32:12
Quote from: Neur123 on August 18, 2023, 13:06:52Is the ram for the IGPU still limited to only 512 MB like in previous models? This is a bios setting.

Yes, it is but system RAM can be used dynamically with practically no limit.

I thought the limot of 512 mb means it would only use up to 512 mb of ram from the system for GPU tasks, hence limiting its performance.

See this thread: www . reddit . com /r/AMDLaptops /comments/15rkpin/hp_elitebook_845_g10_review_the_almost_perfect

Dummy user

@Neur123

QuoteThe iGPU VRAM is bios capped to 512MB, and the toggle for this in the AMD radeon settings does not work. So if your applications depend on more dedicated VRAM you can run in to issues, games for example can default to low settings but often do run great on the iGPU.

This was written but a complete and utter moron who has no idea what they are talking about, sorry. Windows 10/11 DWM easily eats up to 500MB of VRAM which leaves you with what? 0MB of VRAM for games? Even games from 2007 can easily eat over a 1GB of VRAM, does this mean no games can run at all?

iGPUs have been using system RAM for over a decade now. This also means you get a nice performance boost in games if you increase your system RAM speed.

Andrey 845 G10

Has anyone managed to activate Windows Studio Effects? I don't have such items in my settings.

There is an AMD IPU Device in the Device Manager. Ryzen AI is in the processor (Ryzen 9 7940HS).

There is such a question on the HP website, but there are no answers.

Andrey 845 G10

A fun laptop. Some of the updates broke the ambient light and ambient color temperature sensors. It looks like the Windows update center.

But it will be fixed. The more I use the laptop, the more I like it.

About Ryzen AI. As far as I understand, the problem is massive, including among other manufacturers. It's sad. There's not a word about it in the article.

QueryGuy


TzortzisG

Quote from: Dummy user on August 22, 2023, 16:57:07@Neur123

QuoteThe iGPU VRAM is bios capped to 512MB, and the toggle for this in the AMD radeon settings does not work. So if your applications depend on more dedicated VRAM you can run in to issues, games for example can default to low settings but often do run great on the iGPU.

This was written but a complete and utter moron who has no idea what they are talking about, sorry. Windows 10/11 DWM easily eats up to 500MB of VRAM which leaves you with what? 0MB of VRAM for games? Even games from 2007 can easily eat over a 1GB of VRAM, does this mean no games can run at all?

iGPUs have been using system RAM for over a decade now. This also means you get a nice performance boost in games if you increase your system RAM speed.

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Neenyah

Quote from: Dummy user on August 22, 2023, 16:57:07This was written but a complete and utter moron who has no idea what they are talking about, sorry. Windows 10/11 DWM easily eats up to 500MB of VRAM which leaves you with what? 0MB of VRAM for games? Even games from 2007 can easily eat over a 1GB of VRAM, does this mean no games can run at all?

iGPUs have been using system RAM for over a decade now. This also means you get a nice performance boost in games if you increase your system RAM speed.
Hehe, yeah, this is correct. I just booted into Windows (10) and have nothing open but Edge (3 tabs) with HWiNFO logging stuff in the background - my iGPU sits at 511 MB currently.

And while everything else here is true I will just add one more thing - the sole purpose of that option to dedicate more (V)RAM in the BIOS is to run multiple high-DPI monitors because they will sometimes and rarely struggle to run properly if the amount of (V)RAM is set to be too low. For everything else each iGPU (irrelevant if it's Intel's or AMD's) will dynamically take as much as it can and need from RAM.

AlexD77

Quote from: Andrey 845 G10 on August 24, 2023, 10:47:36The more I use the laptop, the more I like it.

What kind of usage do you have? Development? Can it be used for things like VS Code/Studio, Eclipse, etc? I decided to go with M2 from Apple, but Windows is still would be preferred, if possible. Didn't find a decent laptop before - everything is starting to be loud and slow, when starting two-three Eclipse parallel and many other tools. M2 somehow handle it easily

Alex280

Anyone who got this laptop with the Ryzen Pro 7840HS or 7940HS managed to undervolt it? If not, can you at least set lower TDP with something like UXTU?

I've heard that HP locks down their laptops more, so am not sure if changes like this would be possible.

Dummy user

Quote from: Alex280 on September 01, 2023, 18:59:33Anyone who got this laptop with the Ryzen Pro 7840HS or 7940HS managed to undervolt it? If not, can you at least set lower TDP with something like UXTU?

I've heard that HP locks down their laptops more, so am not sure if changes like this would be possible.

Undervolting is not available but enabling enhanced power saving mode, limiting its TDP (TTP) and operating temperature are all possible which I've done.

Now idling at around 0.7W (CPU ~38C at a 22C ambient temperature), running at up to 75C with fast (boost) workloads up to 30W and sustained 20W TTP. The fan almost never is running. The system is completely silent.

By default the CPU consumes roughly 4W in idle (that's insane), heating up to 100C and consuming 51W for boost workloads and I don't remember how much for the sustained, prolly around 35W. I didn't want any of that. :-)

Dummy user

Quote from: Oleksa on August 15, 2023, 12:52:13There is no USB4!!! This is a lying marketing ploy with a sticker (where are DP2.1 and pci-e?).
One slot for RAM (good thing it's not 8 GB).
Terrible screen.
Only 1 TB of memory...
A huge power supply (did you learn this from Lenovo?)
As usual, the keyboard is not suitable for work.
The red price for this garbage is 900 euros (including tax).
And also a lot of weight (no development). Everything that weighs more than 1.3 kg and up to 2kg feels the same. Everything that weighs more than 2 kg (even 4 kg) feels the same).
1.2 kg is light.
More than 1.2 kg is medium weight, still hard to carry.
More than 2 kg is a huge brick that will kill your back, or carry it in a car.
I want the EU to force manufacturers to work faster and more often.
Do not give 2-3 years for adaptation, because when it is necessary, the manufacturer adapts in 1 month to put an old processor in a new laptop. Or a new processor in an old laptop, and in any case, throw it on the market as garbage.
Therefore, it is necessary to establish certain frameworks, and in a year only those products that meet the conditions will be allowed on the market. Only centralized legal requirements will apply. Instead of shifting the problem to the end consumer, who is unable to fight the manufacturer on his own.

- USB4 is there.
- There are two slots for RAM.
- The display is fantastic, better than my new desktop IPS monitor.
- SSD can be upgraded.
- The power supply is great and doesn't get too hot. What I didn't like is the USB-C port which is used for feeding the laptop. It's quite fragile.
- The keyboard is amazing. Soft touch, barely audible.
- It's around 1.5kg which is nothing if you're an adult with no congenital diseases. Welcome to the early 00s when laptops were around 3kg.

Other things:
 - Metal sturdy body
 - Easily serviceable (you can replace RAM, SSD and WiFi module just by unscrewing 5 bolts)
 - Quiet (except when fully loading more than 4 cores and/or playing games)
 - Decent 5MP webcam (vs. 720p crap most laptop OEMs install even in 2023)
 - Amazing speakers with good bass and tremble (better than anything I've heard in my entire life in this form factor).
 - Lots of preinstalled HP junk. I simply reinstalled Windows 10 from scratch.

Overall I'm quite surprised how well it's made and it works.

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