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A 16" laptop without a numeric keyboard seems embarrassing to me, as well as a horrible vision and waste since many other laptops of only 15" do have it.
To make matters worse, it has an Intel Core Ultra 7 155H that performs less than a Zen 4 7040 Phoenix and I don't want to talk about the really stupid price.

They advertised the SD card slot to be U2. So there must be something wrong with it, either via driver or the unit...

Also, it was funny when they emphasized that the new rectangle charger port is "reversible", while barrel ports are omni-directional... Wish there's a slim hope that they will enable 240w charging via the TB4 port with BIOS update some time down the line.

Quote from: JUAN_pcbox on February 06, 2024, 18:17:50A 16" laptop without a numeric keyboard seems embarrassing to me, as well as a horrible vision and waste since many other laptops of only 15" do have it.
To make matters worse, it has an Intel Core Ultra 7 155H that performs less than a Zen 4 7040 Phoenix and I don't want to talk about the really stupid price.

Plenty of people (like me) prefer keyboards without the number keys... numerical keys make the regular part go off center and just look worse IMO. Different strokes for different folks, companies know both preferences exist so both options exist.

The 240Hz and VRR on an OLED are appreciated. Is this not a touchscreen, though? It seems a waste to laminate the panel one of those fragile edge-to-edge glass layers without at least touch functionality to make up for it.

Another "gaming" laptop that can't run modern games at 2.5K with a minimum of 60fps (and there's no talk of ultra-studio quality, it doesn't even run at High graphics settings). With a cropped, uncomfortable keyboard for both games and work.

With poor screen quality, because... the author couldn't even calibrate it! =) Viva OLED ))

With increased noise. With processor performance lower than last year's 7940HS from AMD.

They didn't even write the price so as not to confuse buyers. )))

For whom is this Asus craft released? Who is the target audience? I'm at a loss...

I would have picked it up if it was zen 4 cpu. My workflow doesn't need e-cores. Waiting for zen 5 strix point or strix halo now.

Quote from: Paul P on February 08, 2024, 05:16:57My workflow doesn't need e-cores.

They are not there for your workflow, they are there for OS and background apps like messengers.

Is the Asus G16 with the Core Ultra 9 185H with Nvidia 4060 preferable over this Ultra 7 155H / 4700?
In Europe the Ultra Core 9/4060 is around 200 Eur cheaper (10%).

Is there any info or a decent review (like this one, which is excellent) on the versions with the 4080/4090?

I'd quite like to get one of these laptops, but not if they're annoyingly noisy. Are the vapor chamber equipped ones actually better in this regard or is that just conjecture?

Would the faster GPU impact the runtimes outside of gaming?

Too bad they didn't manage decent cooling for the lower end models.

The spiral of absurd ultra-thin builds goes into the next round. It is so tiring how unimaginative and incompetent some product managers are, but apparently there are always enough "fools" who fall for the cheap ultra-thin scam.

This test exposes the disadvantages of the ultra-thin design:

1. extremely slim fans that emit a higher pitched annoying fan noise than normally thin (1cm) fans do.

2. the need to install a third tiny fan, which is particularly annoying. In principle, I highly appreciate a third fan, but then please use thicker fans for all three with a lower frequency noise.

3. the absurd decision to remove the third fan from the 4080/90 ensuring that this version also gets annoyingly loud. With a chicker chassis and 3x 1cm fans, the cooling would be sufficient.

4. a combined performance of less than 100 watts in the stress test (65+30) is awful. A thicker cooling system would achieve 30-40 watts more at the same noise level or remain much quieter at 95 watts. Win-win

5. passive cooling with the fans off under low load is also much worse with an ultra-flat design. The heat sinks are tiny and thermally saturated much faster than on thicker notebooks. The fans have to ramp up much more frequently and because of their extremly flat design, they have to spin faster than on thicker fans to desaturate the heat sinks.


People need to realize that this ultra-flat design is just a marketing scam to cut material costs and sell inferior products (in terms of cooling). The sweet spot of portability and cooling performance (2.5-2.7 cm) is exceeded here in the most absurd way.

Advantages of the ultra-thin design? Not at all. A thicker build doesn't take up any more space on the desk and fits into any standard notebook bag. I would partly accept the weight as an argument if it wasn't so absurdly exaggerated here. For mobile purposes, 2 to 2.3 kg are sufficient in the G16's performance class, for those who don't carry their notebook around for hours every day (presumably the vast majority?), 2.5 to 3 kg plus power supply unit are fine!

The advantage of ultra-thin perceived by some (not me) is lifestyle / status symbol.

Kind of surprised to see the increased battery life not mentioned as Pro. Isn't that the whole of a laptop so thin?

This just seems like a straight downgrade vs last year's G14. The incredible thing about that machine is that it isn't super thin, and thus despite being small it can fit a 4090 inside if you need the performance, or actually be inaudible if you don't need the GPU on. That's not to say it looks *bad*; just no longer seems special and fades into the sea of Razer/Dell XPS/HP Spectre premium thin and lights and their whiny fans. I really don't understand why Asus dropped such great product differentiation on the floor.

Core Ultra doesn't seem to bring the kind of battery life improvements one would have expected based on the "low power island" thing with a minimum idle power of 8W. I guess Apple keeps that crown another year.

Quote from: Billy O'Neal on February 10, 2024, 08:07:20I really don't understand why Asus dropped such great product differentiation on the floor.

The managers of these manufacturers have only one vision: anything thicker and heavier than a hologram is a failure.

Quote from: Gastredner on February 09, 2024, 09:55:00The spiral of absurd ultra-thin builds goes into the next round... but apparently there are always enough "fools" who fall for the cheap ultra-thin scam.

Uhh, you do realize the whole point of their Ultra series was to market them for thin and lights, right? Those desktop replacement notebooks you want aren't going anywhere, you can still buy them. They're now just called the 14900hx or that 1 zen4 x3d asus rog strix scar laptop with 3 hour battery life while idling.

The design: Top notch
Performance: Ok
Loudness level: Gaming laptop
Price: Outrageously high ($2300CAD for base model: Ultra7+RTX4060+16GB+512GB)

I know performance is not the best in its class, and honestly I wouldn't expect it to be with such a thin chassis. But for me, it is more than enough, I'm a software developer, and all I care is smooth development experience with IDE and 100 browser tabs open, and some casual gaming in the free time.

I wish Asus would rethink their price point and reduce it to an adequate amount for a laptop with worse performance and last-year hardware inside. Plus, 16GB? Really?

If it drops to $1800CAD or so, I will probably get it though.

There are obvious problems with the screen.

The author himself pointed out in the review the poor calibration results and therefore did not even indicate dE after calibration. Obviously it is much higher than 2.

The author did not measure the real native contrast. That means he's bad. Why is this obvious?
Because Asus did not carry out certification for although
True Black HDR 400 (displayhdr.org/#tab-true-black-400). And this certification requires 400 nits of peak brightness and no more than 0.0005 nits of black level. Which gives requirements for native contrast of at least 800,000:1. Which is obviously not the case here.
Judging by the subpixel structure, the screen clearly has problems with the declared resolution.

It also amuses me that the authors of new reviews suddenly began measuring fake 960Hz PWM, on the same old matrices, where this had not previously happened. Obviously this data is fake. Let me remind you once again that if on AMOLED matrices you increase the glow time in a 1 second period (increase the duty cycle) with an increase in the PWM frequency, it will lead to faster burnout. Even if such matrices appear without a qualitative improvement in the lifetime of diodes, especially blue ones.

From a processor point of view, the laptop is obviously inferior in terms of energy efficiency to the Zen4 Phoenix. Not much, thanks to Meteor Lake cores, but it loses.

The memory is configured extremely disgustingly or this is due to the mediocre memory controller in Core 7. Latency is a monstrous 140ns. Of course, no one needs a funny 16GB today if there are no 2 slots on the motherboard.

Otherwise, everything is clear looking at the photo - the keyboard in this series is not working as always without a 16" numpad.
The stupid power supply on the left sticks out perpendicular to the body and interferes with right-handed people on sofas and beds, with the risk of breaking the connector with their feet (they are always to the left of the laptop for a right-handed person).

Well, increased noise with constantly running coolers. However, this is a common thing for Asus.

Well, the temperature at the keyboard level exceeds 50C in heavy tasks. It is better not to close the screen cover under such a load to avoid damage to the screen panel and its electronics.

Quote from: NikoB on February 21, 2024, 20:45:59The author himself pointed out in the review the poor calibration results and therefore did not even indicate dE after calibration. Obviously it is much higher than 2.

1.6 uncalibrated DP3 profile
1.4 calibrated

it's all on calman screenshots wth

Quote from: lmao on February 21, 2024, 21:20:231.6 uncalibrated DP3 profile
1.4 calibrated

If everything is so good, why didn't the author enter the data into the table?

Quote from: NikoB on February 21, 2024, 21:59:52If everything is so good, why didn't the author enter the data into the table?

because it's about the same, values change sideways, some get bit better some get bit worse
uncalibrated 1.6 is in the table

2024 gaming laptop and no 32-64Gb RAM options? And soldered slots. Epic fail, especially considering extremely high price.

I wish I had seen this review before ordering the Core Ultra 9 4070 model (based on @Dave2D's video). The cooling system is absolutely unacceptable - far too much noise at all the wrong frequencies, and the cooling performance is abysmal. I'm not even going to bother unboxing it; this one is going right back to Best Buy, and they can keep the 4080/90 ones as well.

Quote from: MichaelD on February 22, 2024, 22:49:54The cooling system is absolutely unacceptable - far too much noise at all the wrong frequencies, and the cooling performance is abysmal. I'm not even going to bother unboxing it

How could you hear the noise without even unboxing it?!

Quote from: RobertJasiek on February 23, 2024, 06:56:34How could you hear the noise without even unboxing it?!

he read nbc review
congrats on finding a new low in your low-effort commenting

If someone reads a review indicating a serious problem, he should not buy the product. If somebody has already bought the product, he should form his own opinion to judge whether the review is right before possibly returning the product.

Quote from: RobertJasiek on February 23, 2024, 12:19:17If someone reads a review indicating a serious problem, he should not buy the product. If somebody has already bought the product, he should form his own opinion to judge whether the review is right before possibly returning the product.

says who?
people can do whatever they want lmao
well at least in this meaningless conversation of yours we've found a brand you are shilling for

QuoteMoreover, we have to continue to critique Windows' HDR implementation, as it has to be activated manually and subsequently, the color profiles don't work right anymore.

Because the author does not understand the essence of how HDR10 works - with static metadata. This mode ALWAYS requires setting the maximum, peak brightness level when working with HDR10 variations (HDR600...1000+, and the fake HDR400 has absolutely nothing to do with HDR10). Which leads to automatic accelerated burnout of not only OLED, but also VA/IPS panels.

The problem is that only AMOLED panels with a real black color of a maximum of 0.0005 nits can work satisfactorily with HDR10+ (Dynamic HDR - with dynamic metadata with auto-calibration for the current screen brightness). And partly Dolby Vision aka DV (since there is no full automatic). But where does the author see the content and laptop monitors/panels with hardware support for HDR10+? They do not exist in nature.

This mode is supported only by AMOLED TV and not all of them. As there is a problem with content in this format.

If the screen is not certified (and actually corresponds in your copy) to at least True Black HDR 400, we cannot talk about any support for HDR10. This is fake non-working HDR.

Normal HDR10 mode with peak brightness ALWAYS set leads to rapid screen burn-in. Anyone. Therefore, this mode must be activated only when the owner really needs it; in other cases, the brightness must comply with ergonomic standards - 100-150 nits in office and daylight in the room.

Let me also remind you that all HDR modes (except for the fake HDR100) require a color coverage of at least 90% DCI-P3.
Most programs and even Windows system components expect not DCI-P3 (Rec.2020), but sRGB (Rec.709/SDR) as input. Therefore, Windows works exactly in the mode in which most software is made. And a lot of software doesn't even work with color management systems. Even some of the popular video players, that's what's amazing.

Moreover, as I wrote earlier, the color space management system in Windows was initially done incorrectly. Some display systems ignore the assigned color profile.

In theory, the color profile obtained after individual hardware calibration of the matrix should be loaded into the video driver and it should always convert the output video data arriving at the matrix in accordance with it. Regardless of the withdrawal method. If the driver is told to output sRGB by default, then the output of any program and OS components should automatically be converted from sRGB to real, native matrix space. If the software indicates that it decides how to output (via the API), then the driver passes this video data without conversion, as is.

Only AMD drivers have a built-in auto-calibrator for the EDID matrix in sRGB, automatically bringing colors back to normal, even on wide gamut panels. And they are trying to emulate (with loss of DD) sRGB on matrices with a smaller color space - 45-46% NTSC.

Therefore, owners of AMD cards and igpus have always been in PRIVILEGED mode for the last 17 years, compared to owners of Intel igpus and discrete Intel/NVidia chips.

In AMD drivers, just check the "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox and an automatic attempt will be made to auto-calibrate in sRGB any screen panel with more or less native space than sRGB. In new drivers starting with the Adrenaline version, this checkbox is clearly missing; instead, you need to disable manual color control in the screen settings - which (manual control) is always enabled by default in AMD drivers. The effect will be the same. 99% of buyers of AMD cards and video integrated devices do not know about this outstanding feature of AMD drivers, which elevates AMD cards head and shoulders above Intel/NVidia chips and drivers.

Any owner of an AMD card or igpu can see for themselves the radical improvement in sRGB color accuracy on their monitors and laptop panels. Those who own cheap IPS with 45-46% NTSC and who have wide gamut matrices especially benefit.

Quote from: NikoB on February 24, 2024, 12:45:48In AMD drivers, just check the "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox and an automatic attempt will be made to auto-calibrate in sRGB any screen panel with more or less native space than sRGB.

You do know that such option does not exist in the AMD drivers since July 2018, right?

There are video profiles now: https://imgur.com/BX4oq35 (https://imgur.com/BX4oq35)

Edit: You can set it up on Nvidia though, still works there including with 551.61 😁

Quote from: Neenyah on February 24, 2024, 14:11:26You do know that such option does not exist in the AMD drivers since July 2018, right?

You are a very strange patient with memory lapses - I indicated in the text how to turn on the autocalibrator in Adrenaline.

NVidia/Intel still does not have these settings.

Quote from: NikoB on February 25, 2024, 12:36:12

Quote from: Neenyah on February 24, 2024, 14:11:26You do know that such option does not exist in the AMD drivers since July 2018, right?

You are a very strange patient with memory lapses - I indicated in the text how to turn on the autocalibrator in Adrenaline.

Just don't ever check the screenshot to stay right in your head like a true tool 😆

Quote from: Neenyah on February 24, 2024, 14:11:26There are video profiles now: https://imgur.com/BX4oq35 (https://imgur.com/BX4oq35)

Quote from: NikoB on February 25, 2024, 12:36:12NVidia/Intel still does not have these settings.

Intel. Nvidia has it for years.

Quote from: Neenyah on February 25, 2024, 14:14:24Just don't ever check the screenshot to stay right in your head like a true tool

You really are dyslexic. Because the setting is in a different place, not place from your screenshot.

Intel/NVidia doesn't have this. I checked on some 2022-2023 laptops with more recent discrete chips and this is not the case with new drivers for the 1050 either.

AMD has quietly made NVidia for at least 16 years, and its stupid bosses didn't even notice the knockdown...)))

Quote from: NikoB on February 25, 2024, 20:12:57

Quote from: Neenyah on February 25, 2024, 14:14:24Just don't ever check the screenshot to stay right in your head like a true tool

You really are dyslexic. Because the setting is in a different place, not place from your screenshot.

It's elsewhere, you just can't show it, right? 😁

Quote from: NikoB on February 25, 2024, 20:12:57Intel/NVidia doesn't have this. I checked on some 2022-2023 laptops with more recent discrete chips and this is not the case with new drivers for the 1050 either.

Lol. Inform Nvidia then that they don't have it because they must be wrong:

• https://www.nvidia.com/content/Control-Panel-Help/vLatest/en-us/mergedProjects/nvwks/To_force_an_EDID_at_a_display_connection.htm (https://www.nvidia.com/content/Control-Panel-Help/vLatest/en-us/mergedProjects/nvwks/To_force_an_EDID_at_a_display_connection.htm)
• https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3569/~/managing-a-display-edid-on-windows (https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3569/~/managing-a-display-edid-on-windows)

(With Studio drivers it is available on all Nvidia GPUs, not just Quadros)

Quote from: NikoB on February 25, 2024, 20:12:57

Quote from: Neenyah on February 25, 2024, 14:14:24Just don't ever check the screenshot to stay right in your head like a true tool

You really are dyslexic. Because the setting is in a different place, not place from your screenshot.

There we go, got to my PC... Let's see because you can't provide screenshot (as it doesn't exist since July 2018) of that setting in Adrenalin and because Adrenalin has search so let's find it to beat my "dyslexion", shall we?

Can't find EDID anywhere in Adrenalin: https://imgur.com/AomD2cC (https://imgur.com/AomD2cC)

Can't find "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" anywhere in Adrenalin: https://imgur.com/Xtzbh6o (https://imgur.com/Xtzbh6o)

But hey, you claim that it exist there:

Quote from: NikoB on February 24, 2024, 12:45:48In AMD drivers, just check the "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox and an automatic attempt will be made to auto-calibrate in sRGB any screen panel with more or less native space than sRGB.

Then again if you search for anything else, you don't even need a full word, say you want to find "performance"... there it is, with just "perfor" typed in the search box: https://imgur.com/8zdhFde (https://imgur.com/8zdhFde)

So NikoB, as always, you are full of s*** with your "facts" 😊

Your stupidity and amateurishness are so amazing that readers are probably already making fun of you.

I wrote how to enable the autocalibrator in the newest versions of Adrenaline. But unfortunately, because you are a dyslexic person, you will not be able to understand the sequence for this. Even with a screenshot. Even if draw a red arrow to it check box, you won't see it, because you are also colorblind.


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By the way, all the latest versions of Adrenaline do not work correctly (intentionally) with VP9/HEVC Zen/Zen+ hardware decoders. It is enough to install the 2020 drivers and the difference in processor load is amazing for the better, as is the drop in noise level. In old drivers, the frequency stays below 1.7 GHz when the decoder is running at 4k@60fps on YouTube, with new drivers in 2024 it jumps to 3 GHz and higher. The processor load is 3 times higher. With a completely updated system and VP9 from MStore. It is for this reason that Lenovo, for example, deliberately does not update video drivers for older series of laptops, despite the fact that support for these series is stated until 2026, and the number of new versions of Adrenaline since then has been measured in dozens...

So the AMD driver writers remain as crooked as they were. The only question is whether this was done intentionally - to try to artificially displace owners of old laptops to new hardware, or whether they are just idiots. I think this was done intentionally - artificial aging of old hardware by deliberately degrading the performance of the drivers.

As you know, AMD is the first to refuse support for older video cards; NVidia has supported it much longer, but alas, its drivers still do not have a built-in autocalibrator for sRGB by EDID.

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 10:37:35...💩💩💩💩💩...

So a true clown full of s***? Got it.

Also nice wall of another incorrect "info" 😂

This is by far my favourite part of that nonsense:

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 10:37:35By the way, all the latest versions of Adrenaline do not work correctly (intentionally) with VP9/HEVC Zen/Zen+ hardware decoders. It is enough to install the 2020 drivers and the difference in processor load...

Adrenalin*, without "e", is an app/GUI where you adjust settings, check for AMD driver updates, check game and apps stats and set settings and parameters for them and so on. It's not what you think it is, fucking lol. It's like saying that the Intel Graphics Command Center, Intel's app for the same purpose, doesn't work with VP9/HEVC 😅

You also can't use 2020 drivers on a 6000/7000 series GPUs, where do you even get those braindead ideas 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Moron, in my text for the sane it is clearly written how to turn on the autocalibrator. Just a week ago, I checked Adrenaline at the end of January 2024 - everything works as before.

But nothing works for stupid people like you. There are no brains...

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 13:48:26Moron, in my text for the sane it is clearly written how to turn on the autocalibrator. Just a week ago, I checked Adrenaline at the end of January 2024 - everything works as before.

But nothing works for stupid people like you. There are no brains...

You just can't provide screenshot to prove your claims or to help someone else who can't find something that doesn't exist, right? It is difficult to screenshot imaginary things in your head, isn't it? 😆

www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh3-021
What kind of idiot do you have to be to not understand what I wrote earlier immediately, without screenshots?

Neenyah, you have completely disgraced yourself. You're a humanitarian, right?

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 18:33:30www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh3-021
What kind of idiot do you have to be to not understand what I wrote earlier immediately, without screenshots?

Neenyah, you have completely disgraced yourself. You're a humanitarian, right?

Holy f***, the level of your retardation is truly astonishing. Now check what I posted back on the second page:

Quote from: Neenyah on February 24, 2024, 14:11:26You do know that such option does not exist in the AMD drivers since July 2018, right?

There are video profiles now: https://imgur.com/BX4oq35 (https://imgur.com/BX4oq35)

It is literally in "Custom". I posted the screenshot of it (and it is also visible on the link you provided) just for you dumb monkey to reply to that comment and say:

Quote from: NikoB on February 25, 2024, 12:36:12You are a very strange patient with memory lapses - I indicated in the text how to turn on the autocalibrator in Adrenaline.

Actual braindead clown. Kudos for achieving that, bottom 1% of "humans" can actually sink so low.

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 13:48:26Moron, in my text for the sane it is clearly written how to turn on the autocalibrator.

You know what is quite funny here? You said:

Quote from: NikoB on February 24, 2024, 12:45:48In AMD drivers, just check the "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox and an automatic attempt will be made to auto-calibrate in sRGB any screen panel with more or less native space than sRGB.

And then...

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 18:33:30www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/dh3-021
What kind of idiot do you have to be to not understand what I wrote earlier immediately, without screenshots?

...on literally not a single of those screenshots on the AMD's page there is no "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox/toggle nor it's being anywhere in the article 😂

It is also to set it separately per-game because, as AMD says on that page:

"By default, Custom Color is disabled in application profiles and will inherit the settings from Global Graphics once enabled. Any changes made in the application profile will apply to the selected game only. In the example below, Custom Color is enabled in the Apex Legends profile with settings from Global Display automatically applied."

Now again, check this what I posted already, check "Custom", try to read it if you can without your shitty AI translator:

Quote from: Neenyah on February 24, 2024, 14:11:26You do know that such option does not exist in the AMD drivers since July 2018, right?

There are video profiles now: https://imgur.com/BX4oq35 (https://imgur.com/BX4oq35)

That "Custom" there will be global, no need to adjust it per-game/app basis.

I can't anymore, because I'm literally dying of laughter and at the same time I'm very sad to see living people with such a low level of intelligence.

Maybe a moderator, because I can't post pictures, just an arrow will show this idiot which checkbox to click? After all, even an AMD employee specially changed the inscription on the screenshots so that even the last daun could be understood, but Neenyah managed to break through the next bottom...

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 19:34:45I can't anymore, because I'm literally dying of laughter and at the same time I'm very sad to see living people with such a low level of intelligence.

Keep wiggling and trying to get out, yeah. You just described yourself perfectly-well here though, well done.

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 19:34:45Maybe a moderator, because I can't post pictures,

Awww, such an "expert" can't find a way to post screenshots 🥺

Quote from: NikoB on February 26, 2024, 19:34:45just an arrow will show this idiot which checkbox to click? After all, even an AMD employee specially changed the inscription on the screenshots so that even the last daun could be understood, but Neenyah managed to break through the next bottom...

Say no more, my challenged friend, I'll do it with some help from Ctrl+F: https://imgur.com/a/Uhrsabg (https://imgur.com/a/Uhrsabg)

And check this too, many arrows to help you with your brain insufficiency: https://imgur.com/MbCWYBT (https://imgur.com/MbCWYBT)

Nothing different than what I said already:

Quote from: Neenyah on February 24, 2024, 14:11:26

Quote from: NikoB on February 24, 2024, 12:45:48In AMD drivers, just check the "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox and an automatic attempt will be made to auto-calibrate in sRGB any screen panel with more or less native space than sRGB.

You do know that such option does not exist in the AMD drivers since July 2018, right?

There are video profiles now: https://imgur.com/BX4oq35 (https://imgur.com/BX4oq35)

Why did NoteBookCheck not test the Arc iGPU?

This notebook had a significantly higher CPU Package Power (50W PL1) than most other tests (20-35W), and various youtube channels have shown that Intels Arc iGPU can only unfold its power with higher wattage.

In other words: some benchmarks in the wilderness show that Intel scales better on higher wattage than AMD. While making AMD the winner on low power, but not necessarily on high power. I would like to see serious tests with that (especially with 65W)...

Neenyah, you dumb. You need the help of a psychiatrist because you are insane. And the moderator allows you to do this, which is quite significant. Any reasonable person has already seen everything necessary in the screenshots of AMD using my link to their website.

Quote from: NikoB on February 27, 2024, 11:48:24Neenyah, you dumb.

Says a silly clown who can't figure a way how to post an image here. Funny. Keep trying to get out from your stupidity, just never ever admit being wrong in anything.

Truly pathetic individual, no wonder you are 24/7/365 online and patroling around when you are all alone (who would even want to hang around with such "person"?) so, as Torreto said, "I got nothing but time."

No movie quote is better applicable to you than that one. Now hop on and reply once again, you know - yours has to be the last one in the convo to "win" in that empty shell of yours (the one on your shoulders).

I wonder when the sick dyslexic clown 'Neenyah' will finally see the inscription in this screenshot www.amd.com/system/files/2023-07/DH3-021-1.png?

Let him try again...suddenly he will have a very rare clarification of his constant madness? ;)

Quote from: NikoB on February 27, 2024, 17:21:19I wonder when the sick dyslexic clown 'Neenyah' will finally see the inscription in this screenshot www.amd.com/system/files/2023-07/DH3-021-1.png?

Let him try again...suddenly he will have a very rare clarification of his constant madness? ;)

Ok, as you claim this below, the part in bold, show it on that screenshot (https://www.amd.com/system/files/2023-07/DH3-021-1.png) you just linked. Show it. Take your time, I'll wait. Show the "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox". Go on.

Quote from: NikoB on February 24, 2024, 12:45:48In AMD drivers, just check the "Use Extended Display Identification Date (EDID)" checkbox and an automatic attempt will be made to auto-calibrate in sRGB any screen panel with more or less native space than sRGB.

Because I most definitely posted how it looks now and where is that whole section located now:

Quote from: Neenyah on February 26, 2024, 19:49:35And check this too, many arrows to help you with your brain insufficiency: https://imgur.com/MbCWYBT (https://imgur.com/MbCWYBT)

Clown, what difference does it make what the item is called now (yes, it's AMD's fault for confusing consumers in such a stupid way - in the screenshot (аnd next) the same item has 2 different names. The first is correct, the second is incorrect, and it is the second that is shown in the drivers) - if it does that the same function as 15 years ago?

If you clown had an AMD laptop or video card, you would check this regulator within a couple of seconds, but you don't have them.

Quote from: NikoB on February 28, 2024, 07:10:28(yes, it's AMD's fault

Yup. Called it:

Quote from: Neenyah on February 27, 2024, 17:10:52Keep trying to get out from your stupidity, just never ever admit being wrong in anything.

Quote from: NikoB on February 28, 2024, 07:10:28If you clown had an AMD laptop or video card, you would check this regulator within a couple of seconds, but you don't have them.

TIL, I am able to run Adrenalin and set settings in it and so on (https://imgur.com/iH1w9rX) - without owning an AMD GPU. Nice. Go back under your rock, lol.

But you clown continue to argue with what really works and what all AMD owners who have checked the settings I specified know. I received many thanks from them for this hint on specialized forums.

And this autocalibrator has not been available in Intel and Nvidia for at least 16 years... I sympathize with owners of laptops with 45-46% NTSC and those with wide gamut panels (or monitors), but there is a problem with the factory sRGB profiles. On AMD, this problem is solved by turning off one regulator. But NVidia/Intel can't solve this in principle without a hardware calibrator and tools with different software...

lmao wtf is that calibration magic you are talking about that fixes bad displays and autocalibrates(???) without calibrator.
is anyone doing calibrations aware it's a thing at all.

Quote from: NikoB on February 28, 2024, 19:18:13I received many thanks from them for this hint on specialized forums.

You mean in specialized institution (asylum)?

Quote from: lmao on February 28, 2024, 19:33:32lmao wtf is that calibration magic you are talking about that fixes bad displays and autocalibrates(???) without calibrator.
is anyone doing calibrations aware it's a thing at all.

Niko's delusions to make himself feel better with increased saturation on his 56% sRGB 220 nits panel.

Such stupid clowns as Neenyah and Imao (most likely platinum bots of manufacturers or just idiots) turn any technical into a circus due to the fault of the administration. Moreover, I know for sure that the moderator monitors everything and deletes inconvenient comments for the site owners. Verified.

I wrote clearly and clearly that the shameful companies Intel and NVidia have not had a built-in EDID autocalibrator built into the screen matrix controller for more than 16 years. And AMD has it. Which really significantly improves user comfort in practice, both with poor matrices 45-46% NTSC, and with wide gamut, where there is a toxic oversaturation in color, if the manufacturer of the monitor or laptop did not take care at the software level about the actually working sRGB profile (and this is more often This is exactly the case with laptops and some monitors). This is a proven fact.

These bots have only one task - to cover up the topic with worthless garbage so that the average reader does not see the real difference in capabilities between AMD and Intel + NVidia in favor of video cards from AMD.

lmao immediate butthurt when asked a direct question.
you haven't answered how your magic "autocalibration" is working without a real calibrator tho lmao

Quote from: lmao on February 29, 2024, 14:19:16you haven't answered how your magic "autocalibration" is working without a real calibrator tho lmao

The answer is in the description - based on the reference points recorded in the EDID of the matrix. The more accurately it is recorded initially at the factory, the better the auto-calibration in the sRGB space. Unfortunately, AMD drivers are not able to load EDID data from outside; they only work with hardware ones. NVidia//Intel does not have such a feature in the drivers - there you have to use a hardware calibrator (the profile of which used in Windows does not affect and the part of the software that is affected by the AMD autocalibrator is not used) or tinker with the colors manually, by eye, what else the orders are more complicated. And it's their shame, Intel/NVidia.

And any owner of an AMD card or igpu can easily be convinced that I am right and the extreme usefulness of this AMD chip, both on cheap screens with 45-46% NTSC, and with wide gamut screens. I have both this and that - the effect of a sharp improvement in the display of content designed for sRGB space is obvious.

This is precisely what is important for the average buyer who wants to get a quick, more or less high-quality approximation in visual terms to the sRGB space. AMD drivers have been doing all the hard work for them for 16 years.

Quote from: NikoB on February 29, 2024, 17:13:23NVidia//Intel does not have such a feature in the drivers - there you have to use a hardware calibrator... ...And it's their shame, Intel/NVidia.

Quote from: Neenyah on February 25, 2024, 20:19:31

Quote from: NikoB on February 25, 2024, 20:12:57Intel/NVidia doesn't have this. I checked on some 2022-2023 laptops with more recent discrete chips and this is not the case with new drivers for the 1050 either.

Lol. Inform Nvidia then that they don't have it because they must be wrong:

• https://www.nvidia.com/content/Control-Panel-Help/vLatest/en-us/mergedProjects/nvwks/To_force_an_EDID_at_a_display_connection.htm (https://www.nvidia.com/content/Control-Panel-Help/vLatest/en-us/mergedProjects/nvwks/To_force_an_EDID_at_a_display_connection.htm)
• https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3569/~/managing-a-display-edid-on-windows (https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3569/~/managing-a-display-edid-on-windows)

(With Studio drivers it is available on all Nvidia GPUs, not just Quadros)

Quote from: NikoB on February 29, 2024, 17:13:23based on the reference points recorded in the EDID of the matrix

do you think EDID contains colorimeter value for every color point? lmao.
it contains 4 XY values that define red, blue, green and white point provided by manufaturer (just bulk loaded into all screens, not measured for every produced panel, sometimes even just made up values from marketing).

so please go on, what magic is used to "autocalibrate" screen using 4 XY values and make bad displays look better, please be specific lol

Again, two clowns are simply raving, not understanding at all what they are talking about, throwing me a link to descriptions from NVidia that have nothing to do with the autocalibrator in sRGB, it has not been in NVidia and Intel drivers for 16 years. And both do not have AMD gpu/igpu. But for some reason they got into an argument that they obviously lost and disgraced themselves in front of all the readers.

All I can do is shrug my shoulders and walk away from this further pointless argument. Those who have brains instead of sawdust, like these clowns, can easily check that I'm right on AMD hardware. And for those who don't, nothing will help them except a lobotomy...

Quote from: NikoB on February 29, 2024, 22:32:06All I can do is shrug my shoulders and walk away

no don't go away, you've forgot to explain how magic "autocalibration" of bad displays is working

Except for you two morons, everyone has long understood everything. And the number of people who said thank you to me on various forums is enough for my information to be useful for people, but not your stupid flame.

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 18:32:56Except for you two morons, everyone has long understood everything. And the number of people who said thank you to me on various forums is enough for my information to be useful for people, but not your stupid flame.

the only person who can ask for your help or thank you is yourself pretending to be a different user lmao

so how does your magic "autocalibration" work?
please enlighten me lol, i really want to know how one can calibrate their bad 50% srgb screen without hardware calibrator by using 4 rgb values in EDID.

Moron, display the photo on the screen, switch this regulator and will see everything for yourself. But you don't have AMD, so you're a theorist. And I am an extremely experienced practitioner.

Quote from: NikoB on March 01, 2024, 18:50:27display the photo on the screen, switch this regulator and will see everything for yourself

yeah so you haven't answered how exactly is this magic "autocalibration" working?
or maybe it's not calibration at all and you just have no idea about what's going on huh? lol

Quote from: lmao on March 01, 2024, 19:35:38not calibration

From the point of view of the result obtained, this is precisely an autocalibrator. It doesn't matter how it works - its positive effect on the displayed content is obvious to any owner of AMD cards or igpu, except for a couple of stupid local bots.

Quote from: NikoB on March 02, 2024, 12:06:42From the point of view of the result obtained, this is precisely an autocalibrator

so it makes delta E < 2? of course not.

Quote from: NikoB on March 02, 2024, 12:06:42It doesn't matter how it works

it matters because it's not a calibration.
calibration is impossible without hardware calibrator.
so instead of discussing this crap feature just get a proper calibrator, it's dirt cheap.

Quote from: lmao on March 02, 2024, 12:18:42

Quote from: NikoB on March 02, 2024, 12:06:42From the point of view of the result obtained, this is precisely an autocalibrator

so it makes delta E < 2? of course not.

Quote from: NikoB on March 02, 2024, 12:06:42It doesn't matter how it works

it matters because it's not a calibration.
calibration is impossible without hardware calibrator.
so instead of discussing this crap feature just get a proper calibrator, it's dirt cheap.

Moron, where did I ever mention color accuracy in the context of discussing this function? It works crudely (because the data in the EDID is crude) but it works and gives amazing results with one switch for the average person. This means it is extremely useful for owners of cheap 45-46% NTSC screens and for owners of wide gamut screens. And I have both.

Quote from: NikoB on March 02, 2024, 12:45:43where did I ever mention color accuracy in the context of discussing this function

Quote from: NikoB on February 28, 2024, 19:18:13But NVidia/Intel can't solve this in principle without a hardware calibrator and tools with different software...

for example here, lol, you've put an equal sign between this fake "autcalibration" of yours and hardware calibration.
so now you admit it is fake and is not a calibration at all and there's no magic except, like neenyah said, you are jerking off at increased saturation or something like that lmao

so widely acclaimed by nikob "amd autocalibrator" turned out to be just a shitty image enhancer, magic haven't happened, nothing to see here

Quote from: NikoB on March 02, 2024, 12:45:43And I have both.

lol now buy a fucking hardware calibrator already and stop looking at colors and gamma destroyed by your magic "autocalibration", lmao

yeah and ditch that wide gamut (if you actually have it and not lying as usual) - you knowledge about calibration is lower than required to own a wide gamut screen, you're just destroying the screen colors

I wonder, fool, when will you stop interfering with a topic in which you are a theoretician?

Quote from: NikoB on March 03, 2024, 15:23:58I wonder, fool, when will you stop interfering with a topic in which you are a theoretician?

"theoretician" at least has a real calibrator, and you, retard, don't

On my new G16 CrystalDiskMark gives me 242MB/s read and 183MB/s write with my UHS-II SD card (about what the card is rated at). I don't know what was up with the review copy, but just a heads up for anyone concerned that the built in card reader is working great for me.

It is impossible to trust either your results or the results of the review (the author simply does not have fast cards) for a simple reason - Lenovo does not indicate in the specifications the maximum possible read/write speeds of their readers. In the next instance, you may receive a random reader, which may differ significantly in performance. As is the quality of other components. This is the modern world of mass production, where the maximum possible number of characteristics of a product are hidden in order to reduce legal consequences in case of lawsuits. You can manipulate the components as the manufacturer pleases. Unfortunately, most consumers are naive (or, to put it another way, poorly educated, small-minded) and do not pay attention to these important nuances when choosing and purchasing a product.

I wrote Lenovo by mistake, but of course we are talking about Asus, which provides much less information in the specifications of its laptops, like most Chinese except Lenovo. But even in their specifications there are a lot of outright lies and omissions about important details.