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Title: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: Redaktion on November 29, 2019, 18:46:37
The 16-inch MacBook Pro may have pleased fans and reviewers alike with its scissor-switch keyboard, Apple's latest laptop remains just as difficult as ever to disassemble. Even a mundane task like cleaning the fans poses the risk of damaging the device if you remove its bottom case incorrectly. We accidentally damaged our review unit, but you don't have to.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/We-damaged-our-16-inch-MacBook-Pro-so-you-don-t-have-to.444909.0.html
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: bobo on November 29, 2019, 20:11:48
Noobs, of course it bends, that's the whole point of the clips, to prevent the cover from simply falling off.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: MOFO on November 29, 2019, 20:36:50
Another reason to avoid extremely overpriced APPLE laptops,
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: S.Yu on November 29, 2019, 21:21:09
lol, I just dismantled my VAIO Z Canvas by removing 3 screws and then just loosening clips, only to find the 15.2V battery could be incredibly hard to replace, even with a half-compatible 3rd party solution.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: ROBERT J MCALEER on November 30, 2019, 04:28:45
Quote from: bobo on November 29, 2019, 20:11:48
Noobs, of course it bends, that's the whole point of the clips, to prevent the cover from simply falling off.

Isnt that the point of screws? Its clearly a way to push their replace it not repair it mentality.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: Sabby on November 30, 2019, 04:46:23
Guys when is the full review of Macbook pro 16 coming? I have been waiting for it for days. If the review will take time, please tell me if the display has PWM (flickering) or not. Thanks.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: bobo on November 30, 2019, 07:49:34
Screws can fail, clips just double them. It is clear from the video that they were trying to force the cover through the clips. This is laptop disassemble 1.01: do not force components off.

Don't get me wrong, i hate apple designs, but this design isn't even the worst when it comes to maintenance.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: S.Yu on November 30, 2019, 16:25:48
Quote from: bobo on November 30, 2019, 07:49:34
Screws can fail, clips just double them. It is clear from the video that they were trying to force the cover through the clips. This is laptop disassemble 1.01: do not force components off.

Don't get me wrong, i hate apple designs, but this design isn't even the worst when it comes to maintenance.
"Do not force components off"
Easier said than done, with these clips that disengage in unknown directions, often you don't know whether you're forcing something or not.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: Archuk on December 02, 2019, 22:52:38
So, does it mean that MBP review is not coming in near future? Such a shame.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: bobo on December 03, 2019, 09:16:55
Well, you can just try various directions to see what offers least resistance before forcing your way through things. The cover went through the clips somehow, so it should also come off the same way. And with clips, sliding usually does the job, not pulling.

As I said, this looks like an amateur work.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: S.Yu on December 03, 2019, 23:00:44
Quote from: bobo on December 03, 2019, 09:16:55
Well, you can just try various directions to see what offers least resistance before forcing your way through things. The cover went through the clips somehow, so it should also come off the same way. And with clips, sliding usually does the job, not pulling.

As I said, this looks like an amateur work.
Well I got lucky with my device, the Z Canvas had bottom clips that slid up, which I discovered eventually by leaving them for last when I failed at first to disengage them, but all the side clips and the couple top clips, as far as I could tell, needed to be pried apart with a crisp snap, though nothing really broke, but the guy I saw who posted a video on YT said his screen cracked while prying the clips. It's just hard to say without manufacturer's guidance.
Title: Re: We damaged our 16-inch MacBook Pro, so you don't have to
Post by: Thw0rted on December 31, 2019, 14:17:56
This doesn't look like Apple doing anything nefarious -- plenty of other electronics use a slide-in retention mechanism like this too -- but neither is it a sign that the NBC tech was incompetent.  Rather, we should take this as validation of the Right To Repair movement.

If Apple published detailed maintenance manuals for all their stuff like Dell and Lenovo already do, we wouldn't have to rely on kind internet strangers putting their equipment in jeopardy to reverse-engineer the steps needed to open the hardware.