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It's kind of a shame, Asus! The contrast is only 16000:1, not at least 100000:1 (or as they often promise on OLED 1000000:1) and at the same time 240Hz PWM. How did you manage to slap something like this - there is no real black color and at the same time the screen is harmful to the eyes! It would be better if it was 5000:1 (which is still cooler than even VA with glossy) and with DC Dimming without low-frequency PWM... Although it is unlikely that someone will sit at a 13.3" undersize for more than 15-20 minutes, rather connect an external monitor, but still ...

Again, it is modestly silent about the fact that the resource (brightness drop by 2 times) on AMOLED screens is at least 2 times worse than that of IPS (7-8k hours vs. 15k). I don't know how it all looks in the modern world of consumerism, but my laptops usually work for at least 12k hours (on the screen) and, accordingly, a laptop with AMOLED will quickly require its replacement, because. or the brightness will drop or there will be a strong color imbalance.

I am writing this to the fact that manufacturers, obviously not giving a damn about people's health, apparently intend to soon install these damned AMOLED panels in all laptops (and always with a vile gloss, not matte - all your glare). And soon it will become almost impossible to buy a laptop (and then apparently a monitor :=( ) with IPS/VA in practice, as now it is almost impossible to buy a smartphone with a good flicker-free IPS panel and the necessary set of characteristics (hello Xiaomi! And to hell with Samsung and Apple ), such, for example,  as video recording at 4k@60fps+OIS.

This looks like one of the best ultrabooks of 2022 so far, after Lenovo Yoga 7 14 (Gen7 AMD).

I'm surprised Asus didn't make this Ryzen version into a 2-in-1 convertible with new MPP stylus and 120Hz refresh rate like their other laptops.

Quote from: NikoB on July 07, 2022, 23:04:21Although it is unlikely that someone will sit at a 13.3" undersize for more than 15-20 minutes, rather connect an external monitor, but still ...

When travelling, you might sit in front of it for hours. That's the point of such small machines - easy to carry and can be used in cramped quarters like on trains and aeroplanes.

I have already seen the PCIe tunnelling work. It required beta drivers/ BIOS but it did work. A pleasant surprise given AMD's lack of clarity over what exactly are they going to support. Also, while PCIe tunnelling is optional in the USB4 specification, it seems that Microsoft demands it as part of their testing. They argue that people will expect it to work which is probably true. Which might explain why there are no USB4 ports on these newest machines. AMD wasn't ready and without it, they wouldn't pass and couldn't claim to be compatible with Windows 11. So instead, they downgrade the ports to USB 3.2 which has no such requirement.

Quote from: Lorry on July 08, 2022, 08:17:25This looks like one of the best ultrabooks of 2022 so far, after Lenovo Yoga 7 14 (Gen7 AMD).

Best in the countries where they are available. I'm in a EU country that doesn't have them – so what's the point? But I know Apple will be available in a week or two, so that's how you sometimes have to make a decision

Wonderful piece of hardware!

I agree with the ones asking for a IPS or non glossy alternative due to the high outdoor reflection problem.

Any info on the expected release date?

Thanks

Quote from: pR on July 08, 2022, 13:47:48Best in the countries where they are available. I'm in a EU country that doesn't have them – so what's the point? But I know Apple will be available in a week or two, so that's how you sometimes have to make a decision

Lenovo Yoga 7 14 with same display, battery size and CPU is only available in the EU. Asus ZenBook 14 UM3402 was also first released in Europe in March.

https://geizhals.eu/asus-zenbook-14-oled-um3402ya-km067w-jade-black-90nb0w95-m005n0-a2709398.html

Quote from: Lorry on July 09, 2022, 06:49:45Lenovo Yoga 7 14 with same display, battery size and CPU is only available in the EU. Asus ZenBook 14 UM3402 was also first released in Europe in March.

It's not that simple. E.g. many German stores refuse to ship outside of Germany.

Quote from: _MT_ on July 09, 2022, 09:56:24It's not that simple. E.g. many German stores refuse to ship outside of Germany.

That is where package forwarding and many other import services come in. Lots of good products are exclusive to certain region or heavily price discriminated to control the supply and demand. They're all available. You just have to learn how get around these corrupt retail barriers set in place.

Do you known what the reference of the non-touch version is ?

Quote from: Lorry on July 09, 2022, 10:54:07That is where package forwarding and many other import services come in. Lots of good products are exclusive to certain region or heavily price discriminated to control the supply and demand. They're all available. You just have to learn how get around these corrupt retail barriers set in place.

It's still not that simple. You can't reduce VAT if you buy as a company. And what's even worse – from Germany you will get laptop with DE keyboard layout. No, thank you. I know that in EU the only way to get EN layout in Microsoft devices is only when buying from Poland and Netherlands.

There are exceptions, of course.

Maybe if it was able to do 500 nits on SDR content. The search continues.

Best laptop I've used in a long while. Sleek and compact.

Quote from: Pascal76 on July 09, 2022, 12:11:31Do you known what the reference of the non-touch version is ?

I also waiting for the non-touch model. It's lighter and hopefully less reflective without the touch panel.

I fear it may not exist though. Just a paper launch so Asus can claim 1KG instead of 1.1KG. I hope I am wrong.

What is this silly trend of putting touchscreens on everything. On convertibles, 2-in-1s, it obviously makes sense but why add them to regular notebooks. I don't think I have ever seen anyone touch their screens. It's a niche scenario for ultra mobile notebooks. Apple hasn't with their MacBooks and they are selling fine. At the moment, most offer hi-res touchscreens or low-res non-touch.

Anyway, I am still waiting for the non-touch model Asus!

Quote from: Qddy on October 21, 2022, 16:19:41

Quote from: Pascal76 on July 09, 2022, 12:11:31Do you known what the reference of the non-touch version is ?

I also waiting for the non-touch model. It's lighter and hopefully less reflective without the touch panel.

I fear it may not exist though. Just a paper launch so Asus can claim 1KG instead of 1.1KG. I hope I am wrong.

What is this silly trend of putting touchscreens on everything. On convertibles, 2-in-1s, it obviously makes sense but why add them to regular notebooks. I don't think I have ever seen anyone touch their screens. It's a niche scenario for ultra mobile notebooks. Apple hasn't with their MacBooks and they are selling fine. At the moment, most offer hi-res touchscreens or low-res non-touch.

Anyway, I am still waiting for the non-touch model Asus!

Oh it definitely exists. It is sold in several countries in Europe. In the Netherlands it's called UM5302TA-LV067W (90NB0WA1-M004L0), sold with EU plug. In France and Germany it's also sold with no touch screen, but they both have weird keyboard layouts.

I live in Europe and actually ordered the Zenbook S13 from Amazon.com because I really wanted the touchscreen. With import fees and shipping I paid $300 extra for that. I wish Asus would make an S13 Flip with 6800U, but unfortunately they only sell that with Intel which has way worse graphics performance and battery life.

I do agree it would be very nice if we got a choice, touch or no touch. And I wish Asus would actually sell all the colours they advertise with.

@Dionamuh Oh, that's good to know. Thanks! I also found some reviews on YouTube of the non-touch version from the Philippines. Display still looks fantastic even without the glossy touchscreen.

I live in Japan so I'm reluctant to import because of the drop in the value of JPY and lack of local warranty.

I visited my local electronics store to compare various laptops. Both the Thinkpad Z13 (OLED touch) and the Asus ZenBook S 13 OLED (touch) were awfully reflective. I don't think I could use them. I saw a different ZenBook (maybe 14") with the OLED display non touch and that looked great, punchy colours and barely any reflections. The MacBook Air M2, although also glossy, was somewhere in the middle. It was reflective but nowhere near as bad. Which leads me to suspect that the touchscreen causes the extra reflections or maybe Apple have a better anti-reflective coating tech.

I'm going to wait a bit longer to see if the ZenBook S 13 OLED non-touch becomes available here. Otherwise I will just go for the MacBook and hope I can do everything I need in MacOS and Windows ARM VM combined. I'm not invested in the Apple ecosystem but they really make things easier (all options available everywhere, international warranty, choice of keyboard layouts).

By the way, is the USB 4 support on the Asus ZenBook official yet or still requires a beta bios?

I am an enthusiast who owns Dell XPS, Macbook Pro with M1 Pro, Macbook Air M2, Alienware m17, and Samsung Galaxy Book Pro, among several others. Based on my long term experience with these devices, I can confidently say that this Zenbook S 13 OLED belongs among the best of the best. Probably as #1 worldwide in its weight category.

I bought my Asus Zenbook S 13 OLED after very extensive research. I acquired it during the Black Friday and stocks were really low across the board. I couldn't be happier with this choice.

AMD beats Intel all too easily on performance per watt, while also delivering a much better GPU. Add that to the fantastic touch-enabled OLED screen, 67Wh battery in a ultra compact 1.1Kg magnesium alloy chassis, and amazing keyboard with 1.4mm travel and ergonomic dished key caps, and you have something that can't be beat in this time period.

The glossy panel - just like Apple - is a big plus for me. Not everybody's cup of tea, but I really dig it.

On top of that, best in class SSD and RAM speeds, and Wifi 6E. The webcam is a pretty decent 720p, but the mics are second to none.

An finally, something not mentioned in the article - Asus delivers proper Sleep and Hibernate implementation. Something that is awkwardly implemented on a number of brands, including Dell and Samsung. No waking up unpredictably. No not sleeping. No not hibernating. Just works.

This model has been universally acclaimed on every review I found so far. As a buyer, I can attest to that as well.

Im on the same page as Postman. I use mine in the summer here in TX, because it keeps me cool, and is really light. For long games and ops though, I stick with my JPC.

So I'm guessing this "special software" to get PWM to work correctly only works in Windows?

This laptop is giving me headache.

The reason I bought this laptop is because it is running Radeon 680M and I would like to run some machine learning using the GPU. I checked the specification and Radeon 680M support simple machine learning. However when I bought the laptop back I found that the BIOS lacks the GPU memory settings, which the settings is available on my friend's HP Laptop running the same AMD 6800U. So obviously it is BIOS missing this configuration.

Then I sent email to technical support. And they just mentioned that this is not configurable by the user that's why the BIOS has a default value and that's it. But obviosuly the GPU memory setting is missing in the BIOS (which I verified with HP's BIOS).

I really regret getting this laptop and I would like to return this laptop and get the HP laptop. It is not the AMD hardware that doesn't support but it is the Asus BIOS and the technical support team that block this feature, which is really fustrating.