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Title: Microsoft makes more progress with 64-bit Windows on ARM
Post by: Redaktion on May 18, 2020, 23:34:58
Windows 10 on ARM is slowly winning more uptake from OEMs and users alike as time goes on. However, it still has its limitations, not the least of which is the restriction to 32-bit code. However, a new reported breakthrough may bring an upgrade to x64 closer than ever.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-makes-more-progress-with-64-bit-Windows-on-ARM.465903.0.html
Title: Re: Microsoft makes more progress with 64-bit Windows on ARM
Post by: riklaunim on May 19, 2020, 01:16:05
They still could use the help of 64 bit Linux ;) That Microsoft Linux distribution must happens at some point...
Title: Re: Microsoft makes more progress with 64-bit Windows on ARM
Post by: jeremy on May 19, 2020, 01:35:06
We get closer and closer to the original AMD64 patents expiring...

2021/2022 should be breakthrough years for practical, functional, modern  "x86_64" emulation on other platforms.

Sure, the patents are of questionable legality, but nobody wants (nor has the money and will to) challenge Intel and AMD on this (Viatech in there, too, along with the remains of Transmetta @ Nvidia - they are the 4th legal x86 license holder, as per the FTC).
Title: Re: Microsoft makes more progress with 64-bit Windows on ARM
Post by: henry james on May 19, 2020, 02:04:11
minor thing, but you mean 'not least of which' (in the article), whereas you wrote 'least of which', which is kind of the opposite of what you mean. You need that double negative, just like 'couldn't care less' (drives me crazy when people say 'could care less').
Title: Re: Microsoft makes more progress with 64-bit Windows on ARM
Post by: _MT_ on May 19, 2020, 14:27:02
Outside of the software you need not being available in a 32-bit version, how big a problem this really is? The biggest limitation of 32-bit systems is the amount of available RAM. It is, however, possible to get around it (PAE, AWE). Clearly, they're not limited to 4 GB of memory. And of course, if you actually need to calculate with large numbers, it's going to be slower without appropriate instructions and registers. But how relevant is that to common users? We're talking about portable devices, not servers. So, I'm assuming we're mainly talking about software not being available rather than 32-bit actually being limiting.