If you want AMD's latest CPU, it's going to cost you a bit more. Lenovo will be pricing its AMD Legion 5 gaming laptop at a starting price of $850 compared to $830 for the Intel version sporting 10th gen Comet Lake-H.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-cheaper-than-AMD-Lenovo-Legion-5-with-7-nm-Renoir-will-be-more-expensive-than-the-10th-gen-14-nm-Intel-version-when-they-launch-this-May.461623.0.html
I think it's pretty obvious this is a successor to the Y540, not the Y740.
So single zone lighting (white only, on the Y540) and no TB3 are already expected.
Its clear they are gimping the amd version for no apparent reason.
Not producing amd 17'' and selling a bit higher
Even for the names they prefered to add i on Intel version to sound cooler (like cars and phones) instead of havening same name or adding the letter a for Amd version.
I guess this happens when the biggest seller of laptops makes a deal with Intel trying to stop Amd to get exposure and market share.
Ryzen version is totally useless with that GPU. Shame on Lenovo. Lenovo models are out of my interest if there is no Ryzen and 2060+ options.
Quote from: Vilor on April 16, 2020, 19:50:37
..and selling a bit higher
better hardware-more money. as it should be.
there isnt benchmark for i9-10980H but difference with i9-9880H is only 100 MHz. 9880 was overheating, and performance dropped significantly after few minutes. Longer benchmark like Cinebench R20 multicore show it clearly:
AMD Ryzen 7 4800H = 4192
Intel Core i9-9880H = 3239.5
Intel Core i7-9750H = 2595
If difference is only 20$ then AMD >Intel. Intel should be atleast 100$ cheaper
Quote from: havefun on April 16, 2020, 20:56:58
there isnt benchmark for i9-10980H but difference with i9-9880H is only 100 MHz. 9880 was overheating, and performance dropped significantly after few minutes. Longer benchmark like Cinebench R20 multicore show it clearly:
AMD Ryzen 7 4800H = 4192
Intel Core i9-9880H = 3239.5
Intel Core i7-9750H = 2595
If difference is only 20$ then AMD >Intel. Intel should be atleast 100$ cheaper
this
Why the lower spec for the AMD, it's the better processor. All these manufacturers pairing AMD with low spec hardware are missing the market. Where's the AMD 240mhz screen, 20 series graphics.
Quote from: furkantokac on April 16, 2020, 20:18:24
Ryzen version is totally useless with that GPU. Shame on Lenovo. Lenovo models are out of my interest if there is no Ryzen and 2060+ options.
Yes for me also, bye bye Lenovo, shame on you not to put a 2060-2070 with Ryzen, only useless gpus.
I think Intel had smth to say here, but we customers can go to other brands if Lenovo acts like this.
Hopefully Amd's 5600m and 5700m will soon come to laptops and than byebye 1650 1660 gpus...
btw guys, for what u need 20xx cards on 1920 x 1080 ?RTX is overshot it laptops . Textures on this resolution need max4k VRAM, so for budget gamers 1650TI is enough. On this resolution in DOOM eternal 1660ti run 150 fps. its 2,5x more then needed
Quote from: Vajra on April 16, 2020, 23:32:10
Hopefully Amd's 5600m and 5700m will soon come to laptops and than byebye 1650 1660 gpus...
5600, 5700? what happened with 5500? "launched" in october 2019. half a year has passed. appeared in macbooks, trash msi alpha and thats it.
and no launch dates for 5600/5700 still.
makes you think oems are not that evil, just amd management is retarded.
according to one of their CEO, 1660Ti/2060 on Ryzen models will be delayed to July as the boards are not ready yet.
In their newsroom website it is written upto R7 4800H and RTX 2060. It comes with upto 144HZ screen. I think we should wait and see.
Quote from: ariliquin on April 16, 2020, 23:20:07
Why the lower spec for the AMD, it's the better processor. All these manufacturers pairing AMD with low spec hardware are missing the market. Where's the AMD 240mhz screen, 20 series graphics.
See Asus Zephyrus G15:
4800HS
RTX 2060
240Hz 100%sRGB Pantone Calibrated Screen
$1400 only in Newegg
Quote from: Havefun on April 17, 2020, 00:25:00
btw guys, for what u need 20xx cards on 1920 x 1080 ?RTX is overshot it laptops . Textures on this resolution need max4k VRAM, so for budget gamers 1650TI is enough. On this resolution in DOOM eternal 1660ti run 150 fps. its 2,5x more then needed
It's not like that, Doom doesn't need good gpu, when uou buy smth you buy to use that laptop for min 2 years, so new games will come which will require more powerful gpu.
For example Shadow of tombrider or Witcher at 1920 ultra: 1650---33fps min and 54 avg. With 1660ti---60min and 75 fps avg.
Why to gave a gaming laptop if you don't have a min of 60-70 fps. And also if you have a refresh rate of 144 you need a gpu ti give you that frames in games. Otherwise is just useless.
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5600, 5700? what happened with 5500? "launched" in october 2019. half a year has passed. appeared in macbooks, trash msi alpha and thats it.
and no launch dates for 5600/5700 still.
makes you think oems are not that evil, just amd management is retarded.
Amd 5600m will come these months in the G5 Dell with Amd cpu. Probably it will be the best bang for buck, it's bad that Lenovo won't include 5600-5700m in their gaming laptops and is pairing the Amd cpus only with low-mid gpus.
Indeed I don't understand why they don't use also 5500m, is better than 1650 and slower than 1660ti. Probably of contracts with nvidia for so many years to use their gpus in mid-high laptops.
f*** incel for causing the companies to pair AMD renoir with screens that only Hitler produces. (the 60Hz and 120Hz screens, if either of them have the Nazi-Worthy 66% sRGB)
f*** lenovo for sticking low end GPUs with AMD cpus
f*** Asus for ruining the 144 Hz screen with one that only hitler can ever produce (66% sRGB, high response time)
so it is either best CPU with crappy GPU or best GPU with crappy CPU
it seems Lenovo doesn't plan to sell gaming laptops this year
just go look somewhere else
Hi guys,
There was a flub in the press material from the manufacturer. We can confirm from both Lenovo and AMD that the starting price of the Legion 5 will be $759 and not $849 as previously stated. This makes a lot more sense now considering the GPU and display options involved between the AMD and Intel SKUs.
We can all lower those pitchforks now :)
Well editor must check brochure from Lenovo
OF COURSE Legion 5i WILL BE CHEAPER because of GTX 1650 as the MINIMUM GPU offered whereas GPU in Legion 5 is only GTX 2060
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5i_Intel_15INCH.pdf
Quote from: Allen.Ngo on April 17, 2020, 19:40:21
Hi guys,
There was a flub in the press material from the manufacturer. We can confirm from both Lenovo and AMD that the starting price of the Legion 5 will be $759 and not $849 as previously stated. This makes a lot more sense now considering the GPU and display options involved between the AMD and Intel SKUs.
We can all lower those pitchforks now :)
Than you should change the title of the article now that you have all the right data. Otherwise your article title is misleading readers and is a lie.
Be professional!
All the best
Quote from: Padmakara on April 17, 2020, 19:53:36
Quote from: Allen.Ngo on April 17, 2020, 19:40:21
Hi guys,
There was a flub in the press material from the manufacturer. We can confirm from both Lenovo and AMD that the starting price of the Legion 5 will be $759 and not $849 as previously stated. This makes a lot more sense now considering the GPU and display options involved between the AMD and Intel SKUs.
We can all lower those pitchforks now :)
Than you should change the title of the article now that you have all the right data. Otherwise your article title is misleading readers and is a lie.
Be professional!
All the best
Well it is, better you check brochures from Lenovo
Processor
AMD Ryzen™ 7 4800H Mobile Processor
AMD Ryzen™ 5 4600H Mobile Processor
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Graphics
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 2060
Webcam
Built-in HD Webcam (720p)
Operating System
Windows 10 Home
Memory
DDR4 : 8 GB / 16 GB; 3200 MHz
Storage
PCIe SSD1 :128 GB / 256 GB / 512 GB / 1 TB
HDD :5400 RPM / 2.5" 1 TB;
7200 RPM / 2.5" 1 TB
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5i_Intel_15INCH.pdf
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
If you check this config on psref (Lenovo Legion 5-15ARH05), you'll see that they ALL have max GTX 1650 Ti.
So no RTX? WTF Lenovo?
Quote from: dupan on April 17, 2020, 20:10:39
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
If you check this config on psref (Lenovo Legion 5-15ARH05), you'll see that they ALL have max GTX 1650 Ti.
So no RTX? WTF Lenovo?
Well yess
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15ARH05
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15IMH05
Sorry for being salty
Dont understand this...
Quote from: iprawiranegara on April 17, 2020, 20:12:39
Quote from: dupan on April 17, 2020, 20:10:39
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
If you check this config on psref (Lenovo Legion 5-15ARH05), you'll see that they ALL have max GTX 1650 Ti.
So no RTX? WTF Lenovo?
Well yess
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15ARH05
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15IMH05
Sorry for being salty
Dont understand this...
Waaaw from PSREF
ALL of them (AMD and INTEL) maxed out at 1650Ti.
Do check the PSREF
Quote from: dupan on April 17, 2020, 20:10:39
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
If you check this config on psref (Lenovo Legion 5-15ARH05), you'll see that they ALL have max GTX 1650 Ti.
So no RTX? WTF Lenovo?
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author=iprawiranegara link=topic=109849.msg387959#msg387959 date=1587147159]
Quote from: dupan on April 17, 2020, 20:10:39
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
If you check this config on psref (Lenovo Legion 5-Quote from: iprawiranegara on April 17, 2020, 20:12:39
Quote from: dupan on April 17, 2020, 20:10:39
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
If you check this config on psref (Lenovo Legion 5-15ARH05), you'll see that they ALL have max GTX 1650 Ti.
So no RTX? WTF Lenovo?
Well yess
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15ARH05
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15IMH05
Sorry for being salty
Dont understand this...
Well yess
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15ARH05
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15IMH05
Sorry for being salty
Dont understand this...
Haha, yes on the press pdf is written black on white on Amd it has 2060 gpu, and an interesting Display
15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS
(144 Hz / <3 ms Response Time /
100% sRGB / 300 nits / VESA
DisplayHDR 400 Certified /
Dolby Vision™ Enabled).
This display and specs should make the Legion 5 the best laptop with Amd atm.
Quote from: Havefun on April 17, 2020, 00:25:00
btw guys, for what u need 20xx cards on 1920 x 1080 ?RTX is overshot it laptops . Textures on this resolution need max4k VRAM, so for budget gamers 1650TI is enough. On this resolution in DOOM eternal 1660ti run 150 fps. its 2,5x more then needed
Gaming is not my priority, I need more core.
Quote from: iprawiranegara on April 17, 2020, 20:16:05
Quote from: iprawiranegara on April 17, 2020, 20:12:39
Quote from: dupan on April 17, 2020, 20:10:39
news.lenovo.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Lenovo-Legion-5_AMD_15INCH.pdf
If you check this config on psref (Lenovo Legion 5-15ARH05), you'll see that they ALL have max GTX 1650 Ti.
So no RTX? WTF Lenovo?
Well yess
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15ARH05
psref.lenovo.com/Product/Legion/Lenovo_Legion_5_15IMH05
Sorry for being salty
Dont understand this...
Waaaw from PSREF ALL of them (AMD and INTEL) maxed out at 1650Ti.
Do check the PSREF
Lets wait for the product actual release. If lenovo manages to release the legion 5 amd+2060, it might be one of the best laptop of the year.
Quote from: Vajra on April 17, 2020, 08:44:56
Quote from: Havefun on April 17, 2020, 00:25:00
btw guys, for what u need 20xx cards on 1920 x 1080 ?RTX is overshot it laptops . Textures on this resolution need max4k VRAM, so for budget gamers 1650TI is enough. On this resolution in DOOM eternal 1660ti run 150 fps. its 2,5x more then needed
It's not like that, Doom doesn't need good gpu, when uou buy smth you buy to use that laptop for min 2 years, so new games will come which will require more powerful gpu.
For example Shadow of tombrider or Witcher at 1920 ultra: 1650---33fps min and 54 avg. With 1660ti---60min and 75 fps avg.
Why to gave a gaming laptop if you don't have a min of 60-70 fps. And also if you have a refresh rate of 144 you need a gpu ti give you that frames in games. Otherwise is just useless.
RTX2060 mobile in games u mentioned have same FPS as 1660 TI . The Witcher 3-58,5fps / Shadow of the Tomb Raider 74,5
In many games 1660Ti run beter then 2060 so why to pay 100$ more for equal cards?
If you wonder how is it posible. 2060 (TU106)has huge Die Size 445 mm². Design is pure fail! data transfer around such big die generate too much issues. So they reduced Base Clock to 960 MHz. 1660Ti(TU116) have Die Size 284 mm² and runs on Base Clock 1455 MHz. That is ~ 50% faster.
If u want something beter then 1660Ti, wait for 2060 Super Mobile announced on 10th april to fight radeon 5600m. Or wait for RDNA2
What is best more color display in Lenovo Legion 5 or Legion 5i?