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Title: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-core speed comparison
Post by: Redaktion on July 30, 2022, 21:51:13
The recent appearance of an AMD Ryzen 5 7600X engineering sample (ES) on UserBenchmark has sparked a series of events that has left the controversial synthetic benchmark taking cheap potshots at Team Red. The Ryzen 5 7600X even managed to outscore a Raptor Lake i9-13900 ES, leading UserBenchmark to label AMD as "Advanced Marketing Devices".

https://www.notebookcheck.net/UserBenchmark-goes-to-war-with-AMD-as-Ryzen-5-7600X-takes-down-Intel-Core-i9-13900-in-single-core-speed-comparison.638003.0.html
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: Anonymousgg on July 30, 2022, 22:30:03
UserBenchmark should be DDoSed until it shuts down.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: Mangue on July 31, 2022, 12:16:29
Wow. I had no idea Userbenchmark behaves like this. 9000 credibility points lost.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: rs on July 31, 2022, 17:30:56
Quote from: Mangue on July 31, 2022, 12:16:29Wow. I had no idea Userbenchmark behaves like this. 9000 credibility points lost.
Really? UB has been a scam site for a long time. No one should give a sh!t about that site. 100% bias, 0% credibility.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: rs on July 31, 2022, 17:36:18
I don't expect 7600X to be >50% faster than 5600X on average. That's just unrealistic and would only proof how degenerated and biased UB's test suite is. Simply ignore UB. Forever.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: 88&88 on July 31, 2022, 23:26:04
QuoteI don't expect 7600X to be >50% faster than 5600X on average. That's just unrealistic and would only proof how degenerated and biased UB's test suite is. Simply ignore UB. Forever.

At least 18% faster. With 3D or infinity cache with DDR5 4800/5200 in 5nm with higher tdp will touch easily 30%.

 Hope in a decent APU from AMD, not even with RDNA3 but same RDNA2 up to 16CU that can run on 6400Mhz DDR5 and G version can be perfect for low end consumers like me.
We lives in crazy times for ridiculous prices! 
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: Joe on August 01, 2022, 01:58:47
Not sure if AMD trolling UserBenchmark or UserBenchmark trolling AMD fanboys.
UserBenchmark should be the bigger man, because you can't cure fanboys.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: Joe on August 01, 2022, 03:14:06
Biasbench at it again.   They are upset AMD snuck a test in before they had a chance to skew their results.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: HMK3 on August 01, 2022, 06:14:48
Typical LuserBenchmark
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: fuq on August 01, 2022, 12:52:51
fuq pisstel and fuq userfuckmarks HA HA
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: tatakai on August 01, 2022, 15:15:03
Their perspective is fair. They labeled the weird result as marketing. The CPU entry is called advanced marketing services 7600x. And yes the news was all over the place with few urging caution

This site has demonstrated a bias towards AMD so pot kettle. It's hardly going to war
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: twocows on August 01, 2022, 17:04:35
Quote from: tatakai on August 01, 2022, 15:15:03Their perspective is fair. They labeled the weird result as marketing. The CPU entry is called advanced marketing services 7600x. And yes the news was all over the place with few urging caution

This site has demonstrated a bias towards AMD so pot kettle. It's hardly going to war
In what world do you think this kind of unprofessional behavior from a review website is "fair?" And no, whataboutism isn't a valid defense; we're talking about whether their behavior is "fair," and it's not. Not that I've ever seen this kind of childish name-calling from this site.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: intelZ on August 01, 2022, 17:09:49
Quote from: tatakai on August 01, 2022, 15:15:03Their perspective is fair. They labeled the weird result as marketing. The CPU entry is called advanced marketing services 7600x. And yes the news was all over the place with few urging caution

This site has demonstrated a bias towards AMD so pot kettle. It's hardly going to war

then why isnt intels 13900 named Intel marketing Devices? something is fishy
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: Chubs on August 03, 2022, 17:48:04
If I had to guess... maybe the benchmark heavily favors CPUs that utilize AVX512 instructions. Before the 7000-series, AMD's CPUs did not support AVX512.

If that is the case, UB's response to this result shows pretty clearly that they authored a benchmark specifically to show Intel in a positive light by leaning into AVX512 performance, and now dislike the fact that these latest AMD CPUs now support the same instruction set Intel's CPUs have.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: Andrew B on August 03, 2022, 18:12:50
Resorting to insults and slander reminds me of a little child throwing a tantrum when their favorite toy gets taken away.

Has AMD ever falsified data? So why would they lie now? What do they have to gain? They are already the market leader, they dont need to lie to crush Intel, their chips will do that on their own.

AMD is making remarkable strides forward and leaving intel in the dust.

They were the underdog for years, and now its their time to shine.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: NookNook on August 04, 2022, 21:51:06
I don't think they particularly want to favor Intel its just that they hate AMD. They lose their s*** the same way when comparing Nvidia and AMD.
Title: Re: UserBenchmark goes to war with AMD as Ryzen 5 7600X takes down Intel Core i9-13900 in single-cor
Post by: Atent123 on August 06, 2022, 12:06:06
UserBenchmark has a history of really biased behaviour. My favourite was the inlcusion of a score for Latency between core 0 and 1 and DRAM Latency to core 0.
These were the only memory metrics tanken into account and where weight so heavily in their overall comparisson that an I3 scored higher than the AMD flagships. This system obviously changed when Alder Lake had all P cores directly connected to the DRAM Controller (and thus a worse core 0 DRAM Latency compared to the predecessors).

In generell the high fluctuation of how individuell results are weight into the overall score and often weird composition of the overall score make UserBenchmark very weird.