After facing a few delays, AMD's premier Ryzen 7 4800U is finally starting to hit store shelves. Results are insane for a 14-inch subnotebook to the point where it'd be tough to recommend an Intel counterpart when given the same price.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Ryzen-7-4800U-is-an-Absolute-Monster-Lenovo-Yoga-Slim-7-14-Laptop-Review.456068.0.html
First Amd laptop with Thunderbolt? >:D
Those gaming benchmarks look pretty good, it scores about same to slightly better than MX250 and in some games even matches the MX350. It proves yet again how useless these low tier GPUs are.
By the way, can you add to the gaming benchmarks what rendering is being done? like DX11? DX12? Vulkan?
I think you got the memory speeds wrong, or perhaps your review unit differs from what's currently being sold in stores. Also did you test the supposed thunderbolt 3 connection at all? I've seen no mention of it anywhere else, certainly not from Lenovo.
I think there may be different revisions of this laptop.
I have one (Yoga Slim 7 14ARE05) with 4800u and 16GB ram bought in Belgium. On mine the ram is advertised as 4266Mhz LPDDR4x. But i don't have the thunderbolt symbol on USB C port. Didn't try it though, as i don't have any TB3 device here..
Where in the world can you get actually this configuration? There is no model number and it really looks just like some kind of a beefed up testing unit, because I cannot find anywhere including Lenovo's product specification page any Yoga Slim 7 laptop running AMD, with Thunderbolt and 400 nits screen ...
Probably Lenovo sent to test chimera version - Ryzen internals + Intel casing and notebookcheck didnt test if it was really TB3 port:D
This is getting interesting.
It is not wise to say it has 2400mhz ram while it has 4266mhz.
It is not wise to add a 17" inch laptop with desktop grade Intel CPU in multithreaded test if you dont add there also 4900H from AMD? (cinebench multi core charts)
Also I can ask, when you review Intel ultra thin laptops, you never ever put in the same charts 45W AMD 4900H CPUs. Because you dont want to show AMD first, for some reason...
Also you do not mention about the HDR Dolby vision screen.
But the most ridicilous thing is to say it has TB3, it does not.
This review should have a large PSA because the specs described here are not the same as the retail version found on
psref.lenovo . com/Product/Yoga/Yoga_Slim_7_14ARE05
1. lenovo list 300 nits screen while this review list close to 400 nits. Laptopmedia listed as average 300 nits on their own review unit. Both notebookcheck and laptopmedia have glossy screens. Although the screen model is: N140HCG-EQ1
2. Lenovo list their slim 7 with LPDDR4 rams. Non list as regular ddr4
I wonder why the cinebench r15 results are a lot different from a few other sources, which shows it starting around 1600 and then dropping to 1480. How does the slim 7 compare with the 14s? Although neither the 4800u or 4750 pro are available on the lenovo store.
It's fantastic to see Thunderbolt! Very promising, now just make a 17" model with the same exact port selection and ~4lb
RAM speed is 4266 MHz (your CPU-Z showed it) not 2400 or even 1600 🤦
Been anxiously waiting for an AMD laptop with Thunderbolt 3. I hope this is not some fluke. Very impressive results with this laptop. Dang...
How did a conventional laptop without a touchscreen get the Yoga name?
There is a mistake in the article:
"Note that the GPU clock rate here is two times faster than what we recorded on the RX Vega 10-powered Dell Inspiron 15 when running the same game. "
Actually, the system RAM is what's operating at twice the clock rate... not the GPU clocks.
Vega 10 in Dell Inspiron 15 runs at 1400MhZ of core clock... whereas enhanced Vega in Lenovo Yoga runs at 1750 Mhz.
In other words, the Yoga enhanced Vega has 25% higher clocks... which translates to about 12.5% higher performance from clocks alone.
The other enhancements came from uArch modifications which resulted in about another 40% increased performance per core.
AMD specifically said they improved Vega's cores by 56% for Renoir (some of this will be due to core clock increases, everything else down to uArch).
Since clock increases do not improve performance linearly, and instead, for every 10% increase in clocks, you get about 5% performance increase... the actual performance gain from clocks alone is about 12.5%... the rest has to be down to uArch and system memory.
Yes, the system RAM has much higher bandwidth which would improve performance further, but I don't think it would increase the performance by a huge amount over existing RAM.
@Allen
Can you DOUBLE CHECK that it's actually a Thunderbolt Port? Do you still have the laptop there in house?
I'm looking on Lenovo's site and the port LOOKS like it has a thunderbolt logo, but nowhere on their site do they say it has Thunderbolt.
On their site they say it's
"USB-C (USB 3.2 + DP + PD)"
Can you use AIDA64 to double check there's a thunderbolt port or actually hook up a thunderbolt device like an eGPU or Storage to see? I find it hard to believe a unit of this price would actually have a TB3 port.
EDIT: yeah I think you might need to amend this review: https://youtu.be/J2Py8ZkVFq0?t=304
(https://i.imgur.com/qY0QxjP.png)
Quote from: Kons on August 24, 2020, 19:13:07
First Amd laptop with Thunderbolt? >:D
If only it were true 😂.
It obviously doesn't have Thunderbolt , Lenovo reused the Intel images. The PSREF is clear here but I am not allowed to link it, Google for Yoga Slim 7 14ARE05 Platform Specifications . I expect maybe next year we will get the functionality of TB3 but it'll be called USB 4.
There are a few things I don't understand:
1 - Your ratings. Such a rating for such a good laptop doesn't look right.
Example: you put 75 in gaming performance when you give 77 to a Dell XPS 13 9300 wich is what, 40% less powerful in this sector than this laptop?
But mostly, your ratings doesn't reflect the overall package in regards to the price.
We can just look at your top 10's full of intel equipped machines...
Anyway, it's a great laptop, but it's disappointing to see such a screen, 16:10 is ace, but glossy at 400nits is poor with such an amazing package. So far all Lenovo laptops have poor (from my critierias) screens. Not today we will see an XPS killer.
Happy to see Lenovo stepping up again.
Quote from: deksman2 on August 25, 2020, 04:15:14
There is a mistake in the article:
"Note that the GPU clock rate here is two times faster than what we recorded on the RX Vega 10-powered Dell Inspiron 15 when running the same game. "
Actually, the system RAM is what's operating at twice the clock rate... not the GPU clocks.
You didn't read properly. It was not about the GPU max clock rate but about the actual clock rate when running the Witcher 3 stresstest:
Yoga Slim 7: Witcher 3 Stress 1.4 - 3.7
1750 86
Dell Insp. 15: Witcher 3 Stress 1.5 - 1.6
871 73
Quote from: deksman2 on August 25, 2020, 04:15:14
In other words, the Yoga enhanced Vega has 25% higher clocks...
The other enhancements came from uArch modifications which resulted in about another 40% increased performance per core.
AMD specifically said they improved Vega's cores by 56% for Renoir (some of this will be due to core clock increases, everything else down to uArch).
You are wrong here. Picasso U-series laptops could not run at their specified GPU clock, and had to keep GPU at 600-950MHz, depending on the laptop. High cTDP Renoir, like in this laptop, can run the GPU ~full clock- thus GPU clocks are actually doubled.
And for 7nm Vega, the improvement comes from 7nm and arch improvements allowing way higher clocks (at same power), much higher RAM speed, and twice widened iGPU-CPU bandwidth, without improvement to Vega IPC.
Quote from: chx on August 25, 2020, 08:25:20
It obviously doesn't have Thunderbolt , Lenovo reused the Intel images. The PSREF is clear here but I am not allowed to link it, Google for Yoga Slim 7 14ARE05 Platform Specifications . I expect maybe next year we will get the functionality of TB3 but it'll be called USB 4.
It looks like they used the same chassis. You can see the Thunderbolt symbol even in pictures used in this article which look like NBC's own. I imagine they might be breaching licensing agreement.
USB 4 is going to use TB3's physical layer (with some tweaks AFAIK) which is going to allow them to increase throughput. But USB 4 is going to remain USB. It's going to use USB protocol and connect to USB devices. It's not going to support Thunderbolt's features. Equipment like eGPUs communicates using PCIe. Thunderbolt extends PCIe to external devices. USB is just going to reuse the underlying technology which allowed Intel to accomplish that. That's my understanding. Of course, AMD is free to build the necessary controller.
Quote from: Edron on August 25, 2020, 09:47:35
There are a few things I don't understand:
1 - Your ratings. Such a rating for such a good laptop doesn't look right.
Example: you put 75 in gaming performance when you give 77 to a Dell XPS 13 9300 wich is what, 40% less powerful in this sector than this laptop?
But mostly, your ratings doesn't reflect the overall package in regards to the price.
We can just look at your top 10's full of intel equipped machines...
Anyway, it's a great laptop, but it's disappointing to see such a screen, 16:10 is ace, but glossy at 400nits is poor with such an amazing package. So far all Lenovo laptops have poor (from my critierias) screens. Not today we will see an XPS killer.
Happy to see Lenovo stepping up again.
This laptop is classified as a multimedia laptop. While I guess that the XPS 13 is classified as a subnotebook. Different class, different rating.
Yes, the rating doesn't account for price at all (as far as I know and can see). Value is subjective. Surely, you can make up your own mind on what is a good value to you. By the way, this laptop has a 16:9 screen.
Another beast which is limited to 16GB.
Please Lenovo, make the Ryzen 7 laptops available in 16GB & 32GB only, no need for 8GB of RAM is such a high-end laptop.
Quote from: anaconda on August 24, 2020, 21:43:33
It is not wise to add a 17" inch laptop with desktop grade Intel CPU in multithreaded test if you dont add there also 4900H from AMD? (cinebench multi core charts)
Also I can ask, when you review Intel ultra thin laptops, you never ever put in the same charts 45W AMD 4900H CPUs. Because you dont want to show AMD first, for some reason...
The laptop is there to illustrate just how powerful this little thing is. It's mentioned in the text as well.
Quote from: EJ on August 25, 2020, 10:23:52
Quote from: deksman2 on August 25, 2020, 04:15:14
There is a mistake in the article:
"Note that the GPU clock rate here is two times faster than what we recorded on the RX Vega 10-powered Dell Inspiron 15 when running the same game. "
Actually, the system RAM is what's operating at twice the clock rate... not the GPU clocks.
You didn't read properly. It was not about the GPU max clock rate but about the actual clock rate when running the Witcher 3 stresstest:
Yoga Slim 7: Witcher 3 Stress 1.4 - 3.7 1750 86
Dell Insp. 15: Witcher 3 Stress 1.5 - 1.6 871 73
I stand corrected, but the problem here is that the REASON why Vega 10 is underperforming in Dell is quite simply because of the poor cooling.
Quote from: _MT_ on August 25, 2020, 11:47:39
Quote from: chx on August 25, 2020, 08:25:20
It obviously doesn't have Thunderbolt , Lenovo reused the Intel images. The PSREF is clear here but I am not allowed to link it, Google for Yoga Slim 7 14ARE05 Platform Specifications . I expect maybe next year we will get the functionality of TB3 but it'll be called USB 4.
It looks like they used the same chassis. You can see the Thunderbolt symbol even in pictures used in this article which look like NBC's own. I imagine they might be breaching licensing agreement.
USB 4 is going to use TB3's physical layer (with some tweaks AFAIK) which is going to allow them to increase throughput. But USB 4 is going to remain USB. It's going to use USB protocol and connect to USB devices. It's not going to support Thunderbolt's features. Equipment like eGPUs communicates using PCIe. Thunderbolt extends PCIe to external devices. USB is just going to reuse the underlying technology which allowed Intel to accomplish that. That's my understanding. Of course, AMD is free to build the necessary controller.
Intel basically gave the a Thunderbolt 3 spec away for use in USB4. It definitely will be compatible as long as it's implemented from the mfg. It is optional to have TB3 interoperability, but rest assured it's in the spec.
Too bad that in North America this configuration does not exist, we only get the 4700U + 8Gb of Ram. Damn!
Quote from: hfm on August 25, 2020, 20:32:42
Quote from: _MT_ on August 25, 2020, 11:47:39
Quote from: chx on August 25, 2020, 08:25:20
It obviously doesn't have Thunderbolt , Lenovo reused the Intel images. The PSREF is clear here but I am not allowed to link it, Google for Yoga Slim 7 14ARE05 Platform Specifications . I expect maybe next year we will get the functionality of TB3 but it'll be called USB 4.
It looks like they used the same chassis. You can see the Thunderbolt symbol even in pictures used in this article which look like NBC's own. I imagine they might be breaching licensing agreement.
USB 4 is going to use TB3's physical layer (with some tweaks AFAIK) which is going to allow them to increase throughput. But USB 4 is going to remain USB. It's going to use USB protocol and connect to USB devices. It's not going to support Thunderbolt's features. Equipment like eGPUs communicates using PCIe. Thunderbolt extends PCIe to external devices. USB is just going to reuse the underlying technology which allowed Intel to accomplish that. That's my understanding. Of course, AMD is free to build the necessary controller.
Intel basically gave the a Thunderbolt 3 spec away for use in USB4. It definitely will be compatible as long as it's implemented from the mfg. It is optional to have TB3 interoperability, but rest assured it's in the spec.
Pretty much, all that's left is for manufacturers to implement it. The underlying platform (zen 2) clearly supports it, there's desktop boards with tb3 and even the ones without can be made to work with add on cards, I wouldn't put past there being a specific incompatibility with Renoir but I doubt it
I'm still hopeful this is not a mistake, but let's see
Quote from: hfm on August 25, 2020, 20:32:42
Intel basically gave the a Thunderbolt 3 spec away for use in USB4. It definitely will be compatible as long as it's implemented from the mfg. It is optional to have TB3 interoperability, but rest assured it's in the spec.
What do you mean by compatible? Yes, Intel has given them the technology. Yes, USB4 is built on top of it. As far as I know, they actually tweaked the specification and they're going to use different encoding at the physical layer. But that's not the "problem." USB is going to remain USB. Meaning, they're still going to utilize the same protocols to provide the same functionality. They'll just use Intel's technology to increase bandwidth. USB4 and TB3 are going to be just as different technologies as USB3 and TB3. Only the bandwidth gap is going to close. I guess someone could build a USB external graphics card. But I'm not sure there is a suitable protocol within the USB specification. And it would be a different product then current eGPUs which utilize PCIe. Thunderbolt is just a "conduit" connecting the external device to the internal PCIe bus. USB, AFAIK, has no intention of doing that.
Quote from: DougJudy on August 25, 2020, 23:37:24
Pretty much, all that's left is for manufacturers to implement it. The underlying platform (zen 2) clearly supports it, there's desktop boards with tb3 and even the ones without can be made to work with add on cards, I wouldn't put past there being a specific incompatibility with Renoir but I doubt it
I'm still hopeful this is not a mistake, but let's see
No, "Zen 2" doesn't support Thunderbolt. Putting aside that the statement makes no sense since Zen 2 is a code name for the core, not platform (and it's the I/O die that would support it, not the core). But no processor with Zen 2 cores (or any other AMD processor; or chipset) supports Thunderbolt. Yes, it's possible to offer TB3 support on motherboards with Ryzen processors. All you need is PCIe, which is available on those systems, and a Thunderbolt controller. The controller is the problem. Initially, Intel controlled that aspect. I think it was in 2018 that they've opened that up and anyone could make them. So, AMD is free to build a controller into future Ryzen processors or future chipsets (AFAIK). And anyone can make a standalone controller. Back to the point, USB4 support plays no role here. It's possible to have USB4 and no TB support. And in that case, TB devices (GPU, SSD, 10G LAN, etc.) are not going to work. Actually, this configuration can be desirable for companies. Because TB exposes PCIe bus which is not good for security. Sure, you can disable TB in BIOS. The problem with that solution is that you'll lose that port completely. All TB enabled ports will be dead (I guess PD might work, but no USB and no DP AFAIK). So, it's desirable to have USB C ports without TB support in case the customer wants to disable TB.
I think current AMD systems don't have native TB support because it was too late when Intel opened up controller manufacture. And how they see this technology, how important it seems to them, is a question.
What still remains, AFAIK, is the certification. Intel is the certifying body for Thunderbolt. Unless that changed recently. And that could be a struggle. Although, it's possible. I think it's ASRock who have an AM4 motherboard with
certified TB3.
I have a question for the guys doing the reviews:
How come acer swift 3 ryzen has a score of 87 (with a bad display of 60% srgb and a 4700u that throttles because of bad cooling doing the job like a 4500u) and this yoga 7 with great display, cpu , only has a score of 85.
Also how come in the amd ryzen u series when you test the laptops at comparison you put also the intel H series cpus, and at intel reviews you don't put AMD H Series cpus.
Something with these reviews is very fucked up, and the one in charge with all the reviews should do something, otherwise your website will loose all the credibility!
You should also mention that there is an option in lenovo vantage for quick charging, which drastically cuts down the charging time. Also there are 1TB versions with the worse SK Hynix SSDs which you should look out for when shopping for this laptop.
Quote from: Padmakara on August 26, 2020, 13:27:23
Also how come in the amd ryzen u series when you test the laptops at comparison you put also the intel H series cpus, and at intel reviews you don't put AMD H Series cpus.
In this case, the MSI GE75 with i9-9880H is there to illustrate just how powerful the 4800U is. At least in the first run, but that's not a fault of the 4800U.
I am really impressed with this laptop, the cpu is awesome, the temps are good, the fans are nearly silent and it has a great battery life. The negative aspects that I hold dear, the gpu lacks greatly in power, if they could just add an option with a higher performance one. Having a Thunderbolt 3 would be a great plus, but not a must have. The fact that you can't upgrade the RAM on this laptop is something I just don't understand, why am I seeing more and more laptops with this ludicrous option? It's hard to find perfection in this world, it seems!
Quote from: Padmakara on August 26, 2020, 13:27:23
I have a question for the guys doing the reviews:
How come acer swift 3 ryzen has a score of 87 (with a bad display of 60% srgb and a 4700u that throttles because of bad cooling doing the job like a 4500u) and this yoga 7 with great display, cpu , only has a score of 85.
Also how come in the amd ryzen u series when you test the laptops at comparison you put also the intel H series cpus, and at intel reviews you don't put AMD H Series cpus.
Something with these reviews is very fucked up, and the one in charge with all the reviews should do something, otherwise your website will loose all the credibility!
Quote from: Padmakara on August 26, 2020, 13:27:23
I have a question for the guys doing the reviews:
How come acer swift 3 ryzen has a score of 87 (with a bad display of 60% srgb and a 4700u that throttles because of bad cooling doing the job like a 4500u) and this yoga 7 with great display, cpu , only has a score of 85.
Also how come in the amd ryzen u series when you test the laptops at comparison you put also the intel H series cpus, and at intel reviews you don't put AMD H Series cpus.
Something with these reviews is very fucked up, and the one in charge with all the reviews should do something, otherwise your website will loose all the credibility!
Yeah, they're afraid the fact that slim 7 AMD is a real disruptor in today laptop market.
Quote from: _MT_ on August 26, 2020, 09:49:55
Quote from: DougJudy on August 25, 2020, 23:37:24
Pretty much, all that's left is for manufacturers to implement it. The underlying platform (zen 2) clearly supports it, there's desktop boards with tb3 and even the ones without can be made to work with add on cards, I wouldn't put past there being a specific incompatibility with Renoir but I doubt it
I'm still hopeful this is not a mistake, but let's see
No, "Zen 2" doesn't support Thunderbolt. Putting aside that the statement makes no sense since Zen 2 is a code name for the core, not platform (and it's the I/O die that would support it, not the core). But no processor with Zen 2 cores (or any other AMD processor; or chipset) supports Thunderbolt. Yes, it's possible to offer TB3 support on motherboards with Ryzen processors. All you need is PCIe, which is available on those systems, and a Thunderbolt controller. The controller is the problem. Initially, Intel controlled that aspect. I think it was in 2018 that they've opened that up and anyone could make them. So, AMD is free to build a controller into future Ryzen processors or future chipsets (AFAIK). And anyone can make a standalone controller. Back to the point, USB4 support plays no role here. It's possible to have USB4 and no TB support. And in that case, TB devices (GPU, SSD, 10G LAN, etc.) are not going to work. Actually, this configuration can be desirable for companies. Because TB exposes PCIe bus which is not good for security. Sure, you can disable TB in BIOS. The problem with that solution is that you'll lose that port completely. All TB enabled ports will be dead (I guess PD might work, but no USB and no DP AFAIK). So, it's desirable to have USB C ports without TB support in case the customer wants to disable TB.
I think current AMD systems don't have native TB support because it was too late when Intel opened up controller manufacture. And how they see this technology, how important it seems to them, is a question.
What still remains, AFAIK, is the certification. Intel is the certifying body for Thunderbolt. Unless that changed recently. And that could be a struggle. Although, it's possible. I think it's ASRock who have an AM4 motherboard with certified TB3.
TB3 interoperability with USB4 is completely up to the USB Host manufacturer and does not require any type of certification, although it can optionally be done.
This laptop deserves a higher score. I've had the 15.6"/1065G7/16GB/512GB model for almost 5 months and I am absolutely in love with it. Phenomenal screen, glass touchpad, keyboard, battery life, build quality (can be held by the corner of the keyboard deck with no bending, something the C940 can't do). The ONLY thing I wish it had is one of the new Ryzen processors, but I'm satisfied with the addition of Thunderbolt and lack of annoying AMD drivers. Otherwise, it's pretty much the perfect laptop, with minimal compromises aside from marginally worse fit and finish than something like a 2020 XPS. IMO, this is THE best laptop on the market for a value-conscious business user, student, or on-the-go creator. I hope Notebookcheck considers upgrading their score.
Is battery performance really that good? I bought the Ideapad S540-13ARE with Ryzen7 4800u and while on charger it's great but on battery performance drops quite a bit, despite the power plan or battery plan selected. (Started investigating after I found the responsiveness not as great, even slower compared to my i7-8550u at times).
Cinebench performs fine, it scales properly and doesn't get a hit from working on the battery.
But Geekbench, Passmark Performancetest and PCMark8 in my case all take a big hit when going on battery, especially on single core, and perform the same whether I have Battery Saving selected or Extreme Performance. Power drawn DOES increase when going fo rthe heavier mode.
Even tried with a non-lenovo clean windows install but no effect so it isn't a lenovo specific windows setting. Some hw/bios thing?
From what I see all performance benchmarks are done when plugged in, and cinebench is the main tool used. But please inspect other benchmark tools and performance on battery... for a laptop, quite important I'd say :/
no, NBC won't update their scores to reflect the reality. As long as they get to service Intel's weenie, laptops with Cinebench score 520 will get 88% rating (see X13 Yoga review) while this excellent Slim 7 will not go past 85%.
Can anyone confirm the electronic noise when placing an ear near the keyboard?
Regarding the SSD drive, I've purchaseed a model with 4800U/16GB/512GB and the drive is from SK Hynix HFS512GD9TNG-L3A0B.
When compared to the Samsung SSD, measurements are only half of Samung ones. I guess another Lenovo lottery :/ The thing is that Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 with Ryzen 4800U is being sold as a premium machine in Europe while in China it's 700€ for the same config.
Measurements attached i.imgur.com/QfoqvFQ DOT png
This is getting interesting.
It is not wise to say it has 2400mhz ram while it has 4266mhz.
It is not wise to add a 17" inch laptop with desktop grade Intel CPU in multithreaded test if you dont add there also 4900H from AMD? (cinebench multi core charts)
Also I can ask, when you review Intel ultra thin laptops, you never ever put in the same charts 45W AMD 4900H CPUs. Because you dont want to show AMD first, for some reason...
Also you do not mention about the HDR Dolby vision screen.
But the most ridicilous thing is to say it has TB3, it does not.
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This CPU (4800u) is completely MIA in the USA. I suspect it's because there is no PRO version (4850U pro) of the CPU. AMD stupidly sells a separate line of CPUs for remote management by a corporate IT department. There just isn't much of a market for an 8-core 16-thread laptop for home use. The CPU is not qualified for corporate remote administration, so nobody is making a laptop with it.
is minimum brightness really 0.27 nits? I have never seen such a low brightness anywhere other than 0.55 nits on some eizo desktop monitors...
Considering same yoga slim with 4700U has minimum 3.5 nits you made a mistake?
There are a lot of consumer reviews that seem to confirm that the Yoga Slim 7 is mostly silent when it is not plugged in.
However, when it is plugged in (even when it is not charging!!), the fans run constantly, which is really annoying.
I'd like to use it with a monitor that has a USB-C-hub. The Battery Lifespan mode / Conservation Mode is on, the battery is only charged to 55-60% of capactiy.
Is there anything I can do to make the fans stop when the notebook is connected with the monitor via USB-C?
You can disable turbo boost function, then the laptop will be cooled passively most of the time and the fan will remain off in cable connection mode. On youtube there is an instruction on how to do it, look for the movie with the slogan "disable turbo boost" from June 15, 2020.
Repaste with liquid metal and laptop is dead quiet. Been there, done that.