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Title: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Redaktion on October 26, 2021, 20:38:52
The new MacBook Pro 14 with the M1 Pro SoC has finally arrived and we want to describe our first impressions of the chassis, the notch in the display as well as the speakers. Both the display as well as the performance do not really meet the high expectations though.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-Apple-MacBook-Pro-14-M1-has-arrived-and-reveals-some-problems.575315.0.html
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Malcolm Mason on October 26, 2021, 20:47:10
I would be interested to know if something other than the color of the keyboard has changed (key travel, size, finish etc)
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: MadMaxx on October 26, 2021, 21:25:12
I've had my MBP 14 for several hours. Love the screen and performance, but it's a bulky laptop compared to my XPS 13 (2020). I'm kinda disappointed in the thickness. Gotta give it a few days before rendering final judgment, but my initial impression is to return it and wait for the 2022 M2 Air.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: savethebrave on October 26, 2021, 22:19:19
Interested to see you guys test if the display has any blooming issues with the mini leds
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: PolCPP on October 26, 2021, 22:23:49
Quote from: MadMaxx on October 26, 2021, 21:25:12
I've had my MBP 14 for several hours. Love the screen and performance, but it's a bulky laptop compared to my XPS 13 (2020). I'm kinda disappointed in the thickness. Gotta give it a few days before rendering final judgment, but my initial impression is to return it and wait for the 2022 M2 Air.

Is the keyboard better? Comparable to the xps? or is it mushy bottom like previous gen?

Look at the bright side, at least you won't be cooking your fingers like on  the xps (got the 9310 and without disabling turbo i can't barely use it)
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Karolis on October 26, 2021, 22:30:04
Could we get an in-depth review of the keyboard and webcam/mic combo, please? These are the aspects important for WFH setup.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Bertrand on October 26, 2021, 23:08:09
Hello,
I would be interested to know the following points,

- delta E of the webcam and the screen (before and after the calibration),
   the PWM screen
- keyboard backlighting
- battery life

thank you  :)         
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Sergio on October 26, 2021, 23:15:34
I'd love if you guys can check the weight of the laptop in the full review. I've seen different numbers when its converted to Kilos and, as usual, it has a big *asterisk* next to the 1,61kg in the official Apple specs, because it depends on the configuration. It'd be great to know if the weight of the machine changes depending if it's the 8-core entry Pro model, 10-core Pro or the M1 Max. Thanks for all the great, detailed reviews!!!
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Dan Ridenhour on October 26, 2021, 23:45:29
The case sounds like a return to the earlier 'wrist slitter' Macbook Pro models... and I can't help wondering why they need all that case.  Its not for circuitry...  could be for battery and cooling... but part of me can't help but think its so they can release a slimmer model next year. 

From what I gather the 8 core GPU in the M1 is around a gtx1050...   while the M1 pro 14-16 core is around a gtx1650.  If thats the case...  the 'air' seems like a better price / performance deal and the 8/256 mini remains the deal of the bunch.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Andreas Osthoff on October 26, 2021, 23:46:31
The weight of our entry-level SKU is exactly 1600 grams
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Lucky7 on October 26, 2021, 23:48:32
Would like to know more about the display! It seems pixel response time has regressed and may be worse than the previous MBPs.

Coupled with the blooming expected given the miniLED iPad and it's looking like a mixed bag.
Very bulky too. Thought speakers would be a big improvement from the M1 machines.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: KG on October 26, 2021, 23:53:18
My main questions:
(1) Battery life: seems to be the only spec that is significant downgrade from the 2020 M1 models. Any insight to this would help as other reviews show a range of report that make it hard to evaluate.
(2) Display gamut: I have seen from 83% to 88% Adobe RGB coverage although Apple's marketing vaguely suggested a wider gamut than before (billions vs. millions of colors). How does this look especially for a serious photo editor?
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: poi on October 27, 2021, 07:27:11
Hi,

Can you please test the performance in After Effects and 3d rendering.

Another interesting question for future reviews, is to know the difference of 14 vs 16 for same M1 Max processor.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: maxfan on October 27, 2021, 09:46:07
Am following this review very closely - its refreshing to finally see a review of a 16gb ram and not the 32gb model for the 14 inch. Need to see how it stacks up to see if 16gb is truly enough
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: JamesV2 on October 27, 2021, 10:53:41
Fantastic initial review. I guess I'll have to wait for a laptop that does 1000 nits on all content types.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Michael Scofield on October 27, 2021, 11:53:25
Please compare also fan noise to the Macbook pro 13 M1
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: fdfdf on October 27, 2021, 12:08:37
Dont worry. It will crush Rtx 3080 like it is nothing. Apple said that and i believe apple.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Broko Fankone on October 29, 2021, 09:44:52
It's disappointing to see these preliminary findings. I had my doubts about this display, particularly about the response times. I knew they would be bad, because they are bad with every single Apple product. But the PWM? I did not expect it to be this bad. In fact, this alone is enough to sway me away from buying it. I was making plans for a decked-out model but to pay so much money for something using a bad screen - no thanks!

Regardless, I am very excited to see your review, given that it would be the first actually professional review. Youtube is filled with rose-tinted glasses at the moment.

I'm curious to see temperature test of the laptop while plugged into an external monitor. Laptop temps always look better when it's used on its own. But many of us use laptops as docking stations and more often than not use them plugged to a monitor for long periods of time. This changes the thermal profile drastically. I'd be happy to see you do some load/idle tests with a monitor!

Chers  :)
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: ahrian on October 31, 2021, 15:49:01
Ghosting in these machines are TERRIBLE.
Title: Re: The Apple MacBook Pro 14 M1 has arrived and reveals some problems
Post by: Joe Bloggs on November 01, 2021, 15:40:05
I'm going to have to return my 16" M1 Pro MacBook. I love everything about this machine but it gives me a migraine within 30 minutes of using it.

I've never had a problem with screens before but still used software to mitigate any risk of PWM flicker issues (i.e. set screen to full brightness to reduce PWM, then lower brightness through 3rd party software).

The findings of PWM at all brightness levels would explain my issues however. How utterly disappointing.