Quote from: Duds on January 17, 2023, 04:01:51It is a common mistake to assume that AMD or even Intel can just make their integrated GPU's faster. They are limited by memory bandwidth not by the size of the GPU.
Switching to DDR5 gave APU's a really nice generational bump but there'll be a bit of a wait for a new memory standard.
You can add more cache or you can add HBM but both of these massively add to the cost and APU's are supposed to be the budget option.
Quote from: Anonymousgg on January 16, 2023, 23:28:25Quote from: Fabricio on January 16, 2023, 22:21:20I doubt it will be that powerful igpus have just achieved 4tf with the 660m and desktop igups are much weaker a leap that big is unbealiveable
I think you meant 680M, which is more like 3.4 teraflops.
Phoenix's 780M could be the equivalent of almost 5 teraflops, and then it's entirely within AMD's ability to improve by 80% with Strix Point. They can't be counted on to do it, but they could choose to make APUs a lot faster as part of a strategy to kill sub-$200 graphics. Almost nobody using 1080p resolution will need discrete graphics.
AMD desktop APUs will get the same iGPU as mobile APUs, whenever they finally appear on AM5.
Quote from: Duds on January 17, 2023, 04:01:51Quote from: Anonymousgg on January 16, 2023, 23:28:25Quote from: Fabricio on January 16, 2023, 22:21:20I doubt it will be that powerful igpus have just achieved 4tf with the 660m and desktop igups are much weaker a leap that big is unbealiveable
I think you meant 680M, which is more like 3.4 teraflops.
Phoenix's 780M could be the equivalent of almost 5 teraflops, and then it's entirely within AMD's ability to improve by 80% with Strix Point. They can't be counted on to do it, but they could choose to make APUs a lot faster as part of a strategy to kill sub-$200 graphics. Almost nobody using 1080p resolution will need discrete graphics.
AMD desktop APUs will get the same iGPU as mobile APUs, whenever they finally appear on AM5.
It is a common mistake to assume that AMD or even Intel can just make their integrated GPU's faster. They are limited by memory bandwidth not by the size of the GPU.
Switching to DDR5 gave APU's a really nice generational bump but there'll be a bit of a wait for a new memory standard.
You can add more cache or you can add HBM but both of these massively add to the cost and APU's are supposed to be the budget option.
Quote from: Anonymousgg on January 16, 2023, 23:28:25Quote from: Fabricio on January 16, 2023, 22:21:20I doubt it will be that powerful igpus have just achieved 4tf with the 660m and desktop igups are much weaker a leap that big is unbealiveable
I think you meant 680M, which is more like 3.4 teraflops.
Phoenix's 780M could be the equivalent of almost 5 teraflops, and then it's entirely within AMD's ability to improve by 80% with Strix Point. They can't be counted on to do it, but they could choose to make APUs a lot faster as part of a strategy to kill sub-$200 graphics. Almost nobody using 1080p resolution will need discrete graphics.
AMD desktop APUs will get the same iGPU as mobile APUs, whenever they finally appear on AM5.
Quote from: Fabricio on January 16, 2023, 22:21:20I doubt it will be that powerful igpus have just achieved 4tf with the 660m and desktop igups are much weaker a leap that big is unbealiveable