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Title: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: Redaktion on May 12, 2020, 18:48:47
If you want the 4K UHD touchscreen, it's going to cost you at least an extra $300 USD over the FHD versions. What kinds of benefits can users expect and how will the display impact battery life? We compare the FHD and 4K XPS 13 versions to find out.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-XPS-13-9300-4K-UHD-Laptop-Review-16-10-is-the-New-16-9.464337.0.html
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: william blake on May 12, 2020, 19:57:36
lol, another 40db at 40w engineering masterpiece.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: edward_asdf on May 12, 2020, 20:31:21
Great, so you can spend $1800 on a laptop that runs hot and is slower than a $400 acer aspire
who buys this?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: mshaky on May 12, 2020, 20:49:58
Sorry guys, but 89% temperatures rating? Really?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: passenger on May 12, 2020, 21:16:54
16:10 and still very potent battery life even when 4k
at for these two aspects, I'd say nice job done, Dell!
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: william blake on May 13, 2020, 02:09:24
Quote from: mshaky on May 12, 2020, 20:49:58
Sorry guys, but 89% temperatures rating? Really?
QuoteWe categorize subnotebooks as devices that are no larger than 14-inches in screen size and lighter than 1.5 kg (~3.3 lbs) with integrated GPUs
same category, subnotebook:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Medion-Akoya-E4253-Laptop-Review-Long-Runtime-for-a-Small-Amount-of-Money.432008.0.html
as we can see, waaaay cooler than our dell. 93 rating.
in fact, notebookcheck's ratings are more questionable and more hidden than userbenchmark's notorious "bench score". which is pretty funny.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: yatra on May 13, 2020, 08:19:28
I have to admit I'm mainly interested in XPS for the 16:10, I've tried it, it makes quite a difference.

I'd like to see the XPS with Ryzen 4000 hoping for a lower price and less throttling...
Do we know if it's in the pipes ?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: Mahdi 2002 pss on May 13, 2020, 10:51:33
All pros and cons are just about lcd panel! What else?!
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: Mahdi 2002 pss on May 13, 2020, 10:56:05
I think you must reconsider Noise score for ver. 8 of your rating, 40dB for such little guy is too much and it rated 95% :o no more than 35dB would be acceptable.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: Jim Sks on May 13, 2020, 12:02:11
Hot, noisy and ultra-expensive. Check, check, check.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: _MT_ on May 13, 2020, 13:13:58
Quote from: yatra on May 13, 2020, 08:19:28
I'd like to see the XPS with Ryzen 4000 hoping for a lower price and less throttling...
Do we know if it's in the pipes ?
Well, I don't work for Dell, but no AFAIK. Maybe next year with Ryzen 5000, but no word on XPS in particular. If you want taller screen, your best hope might be Surface Laptop 4 towards the end of the year. If you can life with its peculiarities.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: _MT_ on May 13, 2020, 13:26:42
Quote from: Mahdi 2002 pss on May 13, 2020, 10:56:05
I think you must reconsider Noise score for ver. 8 of your rating, 40dB for such little guy is too much and it rated 95% :o no more than 35dB would be acceptable.
I imagine the score is not based on the maximum value. And load average value is 33.5 dB. That's 4.5 dB above ambient noise in this case. How quiet is your place? When it comes to noise and fans, bigger is generally better. You'd have to see whether there is actually a benefit to cranking the fan that high. And it's likely it offers a quieter profile for a simple solution.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: Mahdi 2002 pss on May 13, 2020, 14:57:10
Quote from: _MT_ on May 13, 2020, 13:26:42
Quote from: Mahdi 2002 pss on May 13, 2020, 10:56:05
I think you must reconsider Noise score for ver. 8 of your rating, 40dB for such little guy is too much and it rated 95% :o no more than 35dB would be acceptable.
I imagine the score is not based on the maximum value. And load average value is 33.5 dB. That's 4.5 dB above ambient noise in this case. How quiet is your place? When it comes to noise and fans, bigger is generally better. You'd have to see whether there is actually a benefit to cranking the fan that high. And it's likely it offers a quieter profile for a simple solution.

Generally we must sacrifice performance for see quieter machine! Fans of many laptops make a loud sound even when streaming and low-demand tasks and only with setting "better battery" profile you wouldn't annoy, and with that your above 8th generation laptop will perform just like 6th generation! Wasting money!!
Heating and throttling are unavoidable in laptops and for noisy ones the only way is using little fans on them such that even when they work at 5000rpm their sound would not be heared, Hp elitebook x360 1030 g3 is an example.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: sonny12 on May 13, 2020, 15:04:49
No speakers test? Disappointing :/

PS: Is there a way to know which laptops are included in a single bar of the red histograms under performance bars? It would be an extremely useful feature.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: robgoren on May 13, 2020, 17:59:45
Just got this tesponse from Dell re: PWM:

"I have reached out to my team and they confirmed that all of our notebooks backlight control interface are PWM including the XPS 9300."

I'm not sure what to believe now, because Dell Tech support told me a minths ago the AUO 9380 did not use PWM. Manufacturers should be required to disclose PWM info.

Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: robgoren on May 14, 2020, 20:58:45
I just received a call from a Dell Tech who confirmed that both the UHD panels on the 13.4" 9300 and the 7390 2-in-1 are the same, and DO NOT use PWM.

He also said that only the FHD panels use PWM.
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: Craig S Paddock on October 14, 2020, 05:47:06
Does disabling 4k mode on 4k screen extend battery life to match FHD version?
Title: Re: Dell XPS 13 9300 4K UHD Laptop Review: 16:10 is the New 16:9
Post by: Benjamin Herzig on October 14, 2020, 18:59:14
Quote from: Craig S Paddock on October 14, 2020, 05:47:06Does disabling 4k mode on 4k screen extend battery life to match FHD version?
No. Battery life is worse on the 4K version, because 4K screens require a stronger backlight to reach the same level of brightness as FHD screens. This does not change if you lower the resolution.