Huawei is being dishonest in marketing HarmonyOS 2.0 as a brand-new OS; beta reveals it to be an EMUI 11 rebrand based on Android 10

[Polygon]

Typical Huawei. Secrecy surrounding their shady business, faking proprietary solutions as part of the scam of snatching government contracts and subsidies, the Party tries very hard to disguise the process of moving money from their left pocket to their right as normal commercial activity of the government-civilian sort, but Huawei needs to put a bit of effort into the disguise on their end as well. A shell like this is also all it takes to please the domestic jingoists.

Read comment #1 and #14.

[JZVR]

Lol who's even writing these dumb articles nowadays? Can't believe XDA and Ars don't know the first thing about what they're writing claiming Harmony OS is the same as Android when it's different at kernel level and only includes an Android framework for compatibility. Windows can run Android apps too using an emulator does that mean Windows and Android are the same? Whoever's posting this dumb stuff needs to stop embarrassing themselves and learn the basics first.

[Stevennnnn]

Anything designed or created by china is trash. I'd never buy a product from them

[AndyChow]

HarmonyOS is a pure clone of Android 10. The so-called New microkernel was never built, and the kernel is neither new or micro. It's 100% the Android kernel with no modification.
Now, Android did use linux at it's base, but they've always made their SDK public and released all code publicly. Meanwhile HarmonyOS is illegally closed source, because they haven't had the time to rebrand the code and pretend they wrote it.
They can spin in anyway they want, invent whatever story, it's a rebranded clone, with identical structure and kernel.

[S.Yu]

Typical Huawei. Secrecy surrounding their shady business, faking proprietary solutions as part of the scam of snatching government contracts and subsidies, the Party tries very hard to disguise the process of moving money from their left pocket to their right as normal commercial activity of the government-civilian sort, but Huawei needs to put a bit of effort into the disguise on their end as well. A shell like this is also all it takes to please the domestic jingoists.

Read comment #1 and #14.

And you should read more into how Huawei does business. Huawei's Kunpeng server processors built on ARM stock cores (not unlike Kirin) easily snatched dozens of contracts from local governments and government-controlled funds for use in national security-related infrastructure, it's supposed to be "independent, autonomous and controllable" meaning entirely proprietary and secure, while the actually proprietary and secure Shenwei using the SW64 instruction set built from the ground up only has a fraction of the market Huawei has. Huawei is the Party's prized pet like no other and there's little incentive for them not to deceive and nobody to stop them either.

[Heads up]

HarmonyOS is a pure clone of Android 10. The so-called New microkernel was never built, and the kernel is neither new or micro. It's 100% the Android kernel with no modification.
Now, Android did use linux at it's base, but they've always made their SDK public and released all code publicly. Meanwhile HarmonyOS is illegally closed source, because they haven't had the time to rebrand the code and pretend they wrote it.
They can spin in anyway they want, invent whatever story, it's a rebranded clone, with identical structure and kernel.

Ars Technica's report does not contradict what Huawei said in the presentation nor their official documentation/description.
(1) - 'HarmonyOS is a microkernel based OS with Ark Compiler whose structure allows higher level components to be plugged in through KAL (ie uses modular OS design)'
(2) - 'Huawei's future mobile phones, which will run on HarmonyOS, show Android UI to users'
Those two statements are not mutually exclusive, but you're trying to falsely prove (1) is wrong based on (2) only. That's not going to work.
The source code of HarmonyOS will be freely available as it is released officially, and it already has an open source variant, called OpenHarmony, though the latter is primarily targeted at IoT.

[JZVR]

HarmonyOS is a pure clone of Android 10. The so-called New microkernel was never built, and the kernel is neither new or micro. It's 100% the Android kernel with no modification.
Now, Android did use linux at it's base, but they've always made their SDK public and released all code publicly. Meanwhile HarmonyOS is illegally closed source, because they haven't had the time to rebrand the code and pretend they wrote it.
They can spin in anyway they want, invent whatever story, it's a rebranded clone, with identical structure and kernel.

So how is Harmony OS running hap files then instead of just being able to run apk ones? There's an hap installation of the JD.com app running on Harmony OS already. Do any of you claiming this ridiculous stuff actually know anything about coding/kernels at all?

[JZVR]

HarmonyOS is a pure clone of Android 10. The so-called New microkernel was never built, and the kernel is neither new or micro. It's 100% the Android kernel with no modification.
Now, Android did use linux at it's base, but they've always made their SDK public and released all code publicly. Meanwhile HarmonyOS is illegally closed source, because they haven't had the time to rebrand the code and pretend they wrote it.
They can spin in anyway they want, invent whatever story, it's a rebranded clone, with identical structure and kernel.

So how is Harmony OS running hap files then instead of just being able to run apk ones? There's an hap installation of the JD.com app running on Harmony OS already. Do any of you claiming this ridiculous stuff actually know anything about coding/kernels at all?

The same question should be asked to the authors of these articles, can't believe the level of writing coming out these days, apparently you don't need to have any knowledge about the subject you're writing on to start posting articles.

[FKK]

HarmonyOS 2.0 Beta can be delivered to those devices Over The Air, if you can sign up on this page (note: it's in Chinese). If approved, you will receive a confirmation email and the update will be pushed to your phone or tablet a couple of days after that. You will find installation instructions on that page as well.

Just don't expect the UI to look all that different – Harmony and EMUI share a lot of code. Really, it's what's under the hood that is different. In fact, Harmony can run Android apps just fine. If you're curious to see the OS run on real hardware, here it is installed on a Huawei P40.

Huawei isn't relying on just Android apps, however. It announced a developer competition with awards totaling CNY 1.5 million ($230,000) for new apps for Harmony. The company released an IDE plus an emulator for devs to make testing easier.

Plus, HarmonyOS does include many new features. A core design idea for the OS is to power what Huawei calls "Internet of Everything", meaning the UI needs to adjust to many different screens (phone, tablet, car and so on). To that end, developers can use over 50 highly-adaptable Distributed UI controls.

The phones that are supported currently are: Huawei P40, P40 Pro, Mate 30 (and the 5G version) and Mate 30 Pro (and its 5G version). One tablet can install the new OS too, the Huawei MatePad Pro (Wi-Fi and LTE models, plus the 5G one).


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[S.Yu]

HarmonyOS is a pure clone of Android 10. The so-called New microkernel was never built, and the kernel is neither new or micro. It's 100% the Android kernel with no modification.
Now, Android did use linux at it's base, but they've always made their SDK public and released all code publicly. Meanwhile HarmonyOS is illegally closed source, because they haven't had the time to rebrand the code and pretend they wrote it.
They can spin in anyway they want, invent whatever story, it's a rebranded clone, with identical structure and kernel.

So how is Harmony OS running hap files then instead of just being able to run apk ones? There's an hap installation of the JD.com app running on Harmony OS already. Do any of you claiming this ridiculous stuff actually know anything about coding/kernels at all?

Why are these anonymous trolls not held accountable? Why aren't their IP addresses public? For all we know it could be one troll behind all these handles. At least force them to use VPNs when posing as different people? The Ars article already made it very clear that unzipping the hap revealed a bunch of Android code, nothing else. A grade school kid could come up with an unused extension to disguise a zip file.

[JZVR]

Lol show me some Android devices that can do this then?

Search for "Here's what Android cannot do but HarmonyOS 2.0 can, the power of distributed technology [Video]"

There's a video on the page. When you find Android devices with their monolithic kernels that can do this let me know.

Why aren't trolls like you who can't bring anything technical to the table held accountable with your IP made public? For all we know it could be the same troll behind all these posts. If you're going to troll at least learn the basics first.

[JZVR]

HarmonyOS is a pure clone of Android 10. The so-called New microkernel was never built, and the kernel is neither new or micro. It's 100% the Android kernel with no modification.
Now, Android did use linux at it's base, but they've always made their SDK public and released all code publicly. Meanwhile HarmonyOS is illegally closed source, because they haven't had the time to rebrand the code and pretend they wrote it.
They can spin in anyway they want, invent whatever story, it's a rebranded clone, with identical structure and kernel.

So how is Harmony OS running hap files then instead of just being able to run apk ones? There's an hap installation of the JD.com app running on Harmony OS already. Do any of you claiming this ridiculous stuff actually know anything about coding/kernels at all?

Why are these anonymous trolls not held accountable? Why aren't their IP addresses public? For all we know it could be one troll behind all these handles. At least force them to use VPNs when posing as different people? The Ars article already made it very clear that unzipping the hap revealed a bunch of Android code, nothing else. A grade school kid could come up with an unused extension to disguise a zip file.

Lol show me some Android devices that can do this then?

Search for "Here's what Android cannot do but HarmonyOS 2.0 can, the power of distributed technology [Video]"

There's a video on the page. When you find Android devices with their monolithic kernels that can do this let me know.

Why aren't trolls like you who can't bring anything technical to the table held accountable with your IP made public? For all we know it could be the same troll behind all these posts. If you're going to troll at least learn the basics first.

[S.Yu]

HarmonyOS is a pure clone of Android 10. The so-called New microkernel was never built, and the kernel is neither new or micro. It's 100% the Android kernel with no modification.
Now, Android did use linux at it's base, but they've always made their SDK public and released all code publicly. Meanwhile HarmonyOS is illegally closed source, because they haven't had the time to rebrand the code and pretend they wrote it.
They can spin in anyway they want, invent whatever story, it's a rebranded clone, with identical structure and kernel.

So how is Harmony OS running hap files then instead of just being able to run apk ones? There's an hap installation of the JD.com app running on Harmony OS already. Do any of you claiming this ridiculous stuff actually know anything about coding/kernels at all?

Why are these anonymous trolls not held accountable? Why aren't their IP addresses public? For all we know it could be one troll behind all these handles. At least force them to use VPNs when posing as different people? The Ars article already made it very clear that unzipping the hap revealed a bunch of Android code, nothing else. A grade school kid could come up with an unused extension to disguise a zip file.

Lol show me some Android devices that can do this then?

Search for "Here's what Android cannot do but HarmonyOS 2.0 can, the power of distributed technology [Video]"

There's a video on the page. When you find Android devices with their monolithic kernels that can do this let me know.

Why aren't trolls like you who can't bring anything technical to the table held accountable with your IP made public? For all we know it could be the same troll behind all these posts. If you're going to troll at least learn the basics first.

This troll calls changing extension names technical, goes to show what level it trolls at. When you have an account with thousands of tracable comments across years like mine it might be worth considering whether or not you shall be judged by anything other than your grade school work here. And breaking compatibility is as simple as minor change in syntax, good try trolling for Huawei, try harder next time.

[Bruh]

A summary using simple words:
1. Huawei introduced Harmony OS as a base that you can run anything you want on top of it.
2. For their mobile devices, they chose Android system as the component that runs on top of Harmony OS to attract Android app developers. They even stated that they will use AOSP UI in the early stage of transition to make everything go smoothly so there shouldn't have been anything for people to upset about in the first place.
3. Now people are mad at the fact that it looks like Android because apparently if the UI looks like the one from Android then the whole OS must be as well (big kek). And because the original report came out from Ars, everyone believes it without performing a fact check on it.

Having a correct knowledge is important, guys.

[S.Yu]

A summary using simple words:
1. Huawei introduced Harmony OS as a base that you can run anything you want on top of it.
2. For their mobile devices, they chose Android system as the component that runs on top of Harmony OS to attract Android app developers. They even stated that they will use AOSP UI in the early stage of transition to make everything go smoothly so there shouldn't have been anything for people to upset about in the first place.
3. Now people are mad at the fact that it looks like Android because apparently if the UI looks like the one from Android then the whole OS must be as well (big kek). And because the original report came out from Ars, everyone believes it without performing a fact check on it.

Having a correct knowledge is important, guys.

If you dismiss the Ars article as judging the OS solely by its UI, then either you haven't read it and you're trolling for Huawei, or you're lying and you're trolling for Huawei.