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Title: By all indications, the Nokia 9 PureView's cameras were not designed with the average user in mind
Post by: Redaktion on March 05, 2019, 14:11:03
HMD Global released the Nokia 9 PureView a few weeks ago, and the first batch of camera reviews from various outlets are finally in. While photos taken by the flagship's five rear cameras are excellent, it's become painfully obvious that the phone's cameras weren't designed for the average smartphone user.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/By-all-indications-the-Nokia-9-PureView-s-cameras-were-not-designed-with-the-average-user-in-mind.412673.0.html
Title: Re: By all indications, the Nokia 9 PureView's cameras were not designed with the average user in mi
Post by: S.Yu on March 05, 2019, 17:58:36
They did state that this is a limited run and frankly the laymen's opinion doesn't matter, just as a layman's opinion on a FF flagship doesn't matter, this whole setup largely goes to waste if one doesn't shoot RAW with it and extract more from the file.

I also don't agree that Pixels make easy superior outputs, for example there's the crushed black issue, and the AWB is unstable under certain lighting conditions; holding the phone really steady also maximizes image quality of the merge, but not everyone could be asked for that. When shooting Google Camera, it's wise to expose to the right (though that's hard to operate with the dumbed down interface) and use Snapseed for PP. Gcam outputs superior JPG, but images still need work, this Pureview takes that further.
Title: Re: By all indications, the Nokia 9 PureView's cameras were not designed with the average user in mi
Post by: Theodor Temporalis on March 07, 2019, 09:48:40
As this phone stands out for it's camera, please add some raw files for downloading. I'd like to get a feel for (shadow) detail, banding, room for post-processing. Low-light scenes are as interesting as high-contrast scenes. For banding, small sensor cameras often show problems with streetlights on exposures for surroundings at night.
Title: Re: By all indications, the Nokia 9 PureView's cameras were not designed with the average user in mi
Post by: Jeird on May 10, 2019, 09:19:14
Quote...and like most reviews have pointed out, depth is absolutely groundbreaking.

A lot of reviews I've seen have posted images where the Nokia fails to make an accurate depth map is seemingly simple scenarios (including this one, somewhat confusingly). It's dissapointing that with all of that extra hardware the results are still so poor. I'd love to know exactly how they go about creating the depth maps (one review claimed that the ToF sensor is NOT used for depth, just auto-focus).
Title: Re: By all indications, the Nokia 9 PureView's cameras were not designed with the average user in mi
Post by: Stan on November 25, 2019, 21:49:51
Depth is far from to be good. I took bokeh pics outside and disaster- focus is divided between dozens random points in ca. 50m length. Big errors in my experience. Best raw pics? Not sure, I already edited bunch of them and is nothing exceptional. Other phones can do raw too. Still it would be good phone, but processing speed, touch ID and some other things are making it not worthy more than $200. And customer support kind of does not exist...resp. it's unhelpful at all.