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Title: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 GPU, vapor chamber cooling and more; Dell Latitude, Precision and XPS 15 refreshes leaked too
Post by: Redaktion on April 27, 2020, 19:38:12
Leaked in its entirety by Dell France, the XPS 17 9700 will be a monster of an upgrade from Dell's current XPS offering. With two M.2-2280 slots, an RTX 2060 GPU, four speakers, vapor chamber cooling, a 97 Wh battery to name but a few features, Dell is really gunning for the Apple MacBook Pro 16 this year. An 86 Wh battery and a GTX 1650 Ti is all the XPS 15 9500 is getting, though.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Leaked-Dell-XPS-17-9700-listing-confirms-up-to-Core-i9-10885H-processor-64-GB-of-RAM-4-TB-SSD-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2060-GPU-vapor-chamber-cooling-and-more-Dell-Latitude-Precision-and-XPS-15-refreshes-leaked-too.463078.0.html
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: william blake on April 27, 2020, 20:27:50
17" 16:10, 500 nit?
that was my dream. and you ruined it by this garbage outdated cpu.
f*** me.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: jeremy on April 27, 2020, 20:42:19
Down to 86Whr? So Dell finally learned to stop lying on their spec sheets, especially when it seems their XPS 15's 97Whr battery has been more fantasy than reality. Mine came with 10% wear right out of the box and the wear was not fixable in any way - I never, ever got the promised 97Whr.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: henry james on April 27, 2020, 20:48:51
i just wish there was iris integrated graphics available with these processors -- driving 4k with the multi-year-old intel 630 crap is still going to be stuttery and laggy, while FHD+ is going to be pixelated on 17".

how are away are we from decent integrated graphics on these non-ULV processors?
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: furkantokac on April 27, 2020, 20:58:20
It also has functionality to fry your egg.

Wth is wrong with these companies, they insist on impossible-to-cool outdated CPUs of Intel. I have totally zero interest on Intel devices after Ryzen 4000 series, I don't buy them even they are cheap. Its annoying that we don't have freedom as in custom desktop pc.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: 1440kkthxbye on April 27, 2020, 21:01:38
17" Dell XPS vs 16" MacBook Pro will be pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: MOFO on April 27, 2020, 21:36:25
Quote from: furkantokac on April 27, 2020, 20:58:20
It also has functionality to fry your egg.

Wth is wrong with these companies, they insist on impossible-to-cool outdated CPUs of Intel. I have totally zero interest on Intel devices after Ryzen 4000 series, I don't buy them even they are cheap. Its annoying that we don't have freedom as in custom desktop pc.

The few laptops ive seen tested with Ryzen 4900HS like the ASUS G14 run extremely hot too, It's not exclusive or just a intel thing its OEM's putting inadequate cooling solutions in laptops
As much as I like AMD and wish them success they aren't perfect in the mobile segment either
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: william blake on April 27, 2020, 21:46:54
Quote from: MOFO on April 27, 2020, 21:36:25

As much as I like AMD and wish them success they aren't perfect in the mobile segment either
not sure what this even mean. amd is not perfect, id say way far from perfect. but renoir chip is, by way far, the best mainstream laptop chip.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: _MT_ on April 27, 2020, 21:54:00
Am I seeing right that the home and end keys are on F11 and F12? What the hell? The older layout where they were on cursor keys made much more sense to me. It actually is one of my favourite solutions for home and end as cursor keys tend to be easy to find, the logic is simple and consistent with using control to jump to the next word and shift for selection keeping movement of the right hand the same. Maybe even the favourite.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: Murhaf on April 27, 2020, 22:08:11
Did anyone notice that there is no AC adapter port? will it be powered just by a usb-c which is limited to 100w?
If this is the case the lap top would be very power limited, 2060 already needs about 80-90w, CPU no less than 45w, so regardless of the other components, there would be either heavily reduced clocks, or they will need some very new way to overrun this limit.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: furkantokac on April 27, 2020, 22:10:46
Quote from: MOFO on April 27, 2020, 21:36:25
Quote from: furkantokac on April 27, 2020, 20:58:20
It also has functionality to fry your egg.

Wth is wrong with these companies, they insist on impossible-to-cool outdated CPUs of Intel. I have totally zero interest on Intel devices after Ryzen 4000 series, I don't buy them even they are cheap. Its annoying that we don't have freedom as in custom desktop pc.

The few laptops ive seen tested with Ryzen 4900HS like the ASUS G14 run extremely hot too, It's not exclusive or just a intel thing its OEM's putting inadequate cooling solutions in laptops
As much as I like AMD and wish them success they aren't perfect in the mobile segment either

You've problematic logic. If a company can't cool down 35W TDP Ryzen 4900HS, this is the company's problem. Besides that, G14 does very good job by beating big, muscled Intel laptops. Imagine 8/16 core Intel in the Asus G14's case with same cooling, most probobly it runs on max 2.6GHz.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: fjcalzado on April 27, 2020, 23:36:19
Quote from: Murhaf on April 27, 2020, 22:08:11
Did anyone notice that there is no AC adapter port? will it be powered just by a usb-c which is limited to 100w?
If this is the case the lap top would be very power limited, 2060 already needs about 80-90w, CPU no less than 45w, so regardless of the other components, there would be either heavily reduced clocks, or they will need some very new way to overrun this limit.

Current XPS 15 thunderbolt 3 port can drain 130w, they tweaked the standard. Same will happen with these new models.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: JohnST on April 28, 2020, 00:00:21
A computer size of 17 "without a numeric keypad is quite exotic.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: Rafa Vodovosoff on April 28, 2020, 05:48:56
I can't believe how companies like dell take so much time to realize that customer satisfaction doesn't end in specs.

1)Really nice UHD screen, but if you still sell it with anti glare coating BS it will still look like a data entry computer just to see spreadsheets. It really kills contrast

2)trackpads suck. 3 hand gestures leave us a little bit closer to the organic and fluid experience of mac OS, but still missing the point of fluid moving around

Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: _MT_ on April 28, 2020, 07:00:27
Quote from: Rafa Vodovosoff on April 28, 2020, 05:48:56
1)Really nice UHD screen, but if you still sell it with anti glare coating BS it will still look like a data entry computer just to see spreadsheets. It really kills contrast
I for one hate glossy screens. I don't care about the image looking duller at all. I care about being able to see without wasting battery life to overpower the glare if it even has enough brightness to do it. But you're right, it's a multimedia laptop. I couldn't really fault it for it. However, remember that Dell tried glass only on the XPS 13 and then they went back to offering a traditional matte display. I guess the market is there. Let's be glad for having a choice.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: Hans Gretel on April 28, 2020, 08:08:04
Quote from: Rafa Vodovosoff on April 28, 2020, 05:48:56
I can't believe how companies like dell take so much time to realize that customer satisfaction doesn't end in specs.

1)Really nice UHD screen, but if you still sell it with anti glare coating BS it will still look like a data entry computer just to see spreadsheets. It really kills contrast

2)trackpads suck. 3 hand gestures leave us a little bit closer to the organic and fluid experience of mac OS, but still missing the point of fluid moving around

You clearly don't know the difference between anti-glare and anti-reflective displays. The 4K display has glossy glass covering it, while the FHD one has plastic display covering it. The FHD is just matte, while 4K is glossy glass with anti-reflective coating on top, but still notably glossy and shiny.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: gerger on April 28, 2020, 08:21:51
Still waiting for the 8-core 10nm laptop... waiting continues.

I'd just go for a Ryzen if they had Thunderbolt 3s.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: Murhaf on April 28, 2020, 10:48:38
Quote from: fjcalzado on April 27, 2020, 23:36:19
Quote from: Murhaf on April 27, 2020, 22:08:11
Did anyone notice that there is no AC adapter port? will it be powered just by a usb-c which is limited to 100w?
If this is the case the lap top would be very power limited, 2060 already needs about 80-90w, CPU no less than 45w, so regardless of the other components, there would be either heavily reduced clocks, or they will need some very new way to overrun this limit.

Current XPS 15 thunderbolt 3 port can drain 130w, they tweaked the standard. Same will happen with these new models.
130w Still not enough though 🙄
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: Jim Sks on April 28, 2020, 11:20:17
Dumb decisions by the manufacturers (like that awful keyboard layout) plus Intel's crappy, outdated tech are truly a woeful combination. The laptop landscape is a wasteland.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: Bobo on April 28, 2020, 16:08:05
They need to bring these laptops with AMD CPUs. I'm done with Intel's outdated and compromised tech. Even Apple is done with them.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: Paul M on April 28, 2020, 19:15:15
🤤 Drooling over this 17" model!

I though would also like to see pen input on a 17" device for art production, along with a slot to hold the pen.
Title: Re: Leaked Dell XPS 17 9700 listing confirms up to Core i9-10885H processor, 64 GB of RAM, 4 TB SSD,
Post by: anon on April 29, 2020, 01:30:22
Year 2030 Dell XPS:
8000 GB DDR7 RAM
983 TB PCIe 6 SSD
64K resolution variable size nano OLED screen (pulls out from 10" to 27")
60 Hz 52.6ms G-G