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Title: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: Redaktion on March 22, 2023, 09:57:22
These not as famous search engines do not require users to give up all of their privacy, all while delivering search results of similar (and sometimes higher) quality than their better-known rivals Google and Bing.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/4-alternative-search-engines-to-help-wave-farewell-to-Google.697462.0.html
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: toto1234 on March 22, 2023, 11:14:16
Duckduckgo jumped on the censorship bandwagon a while ago.

It's even worse than Google for policaly oriented searches.
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: Meemo Krohkohdeehl on March 22, 2023, 11:51:17
toto1234 - more details, please!
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: sbo3k on March 22, 2023, 12:50:20
Including Yandex over Qwant and Startpage, which are both under GDPR and some of the strongest privacy governances in the world, is indeed an opinion...
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: toto1234 on March 22, 2023, 13:13:01
Quote from: sbo3k on March 22, 2023, 12:50:20Including Yandex over Qwant and Startpage, which are both under GDPR and some of the strongest privacy governances in the world, is indeed an opinion...

Did you actually try Yandex ?
It's pretty powerfull and finds a lot of links that don't even appear in all the Western censored search engines.

Qwant is just a joke paid by french taxpayers, since the company is heavily funded by the french government.
This of course is completey against the so called neutrality that they claim to have .
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: toto1234 on March 22, 2023, 13:16:06
Quote from: Meemo Krohkohdeehl on March 22, 2023, 11:51:17toto1234 - more details, please!

You can just do a comparison by searching stuff related to the US Republicans, the Twitter files or anything related to Covid policies.

You will be amazed by how much information Duckduckgo does NOT find, on purpose of course.

Now that we openly know that the US government, the CIA and FBI actively participated in censorship on Twitter, you can be 200% sure it's the same for all the US tech companies.
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: Alexander_ on March 22, 2023, 13:58:56
But the author of the article himself (who is Russian, by the way) "forgot" to indicate that:

Yes, Yandex also produced quite high-quality services, but:

P.S. this search engine and its services have been blocked in Ukraine since 2014.
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: omzig on March 23, 2023, 04:50:23
yandex has the simple and clean search page ya.ru
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: A on March 23, 2023, 05:41:11
It's hard to find an alternative for google. I tried some like duckduckgo, but it simply fails on context search a lot. Sometimes I have to put every word in quotes just so it stops ignoring words for no reason. Of course google has gotten worse over the years (no I am not talking about censoring), I mean ever since they did the change of adding vague keywords to up ad revenue. But even then, google gave the best results tested.

Quote from: toto1234 on March 22, 2023, 13:13:01
Quote from: sbo3k on March 22, 2023, 12:50:20Including Yandex over Qwant and Startpage, which are both under GDPR and some of the strongest privacy governances in the world, is indeed an opinion...

Did you actually try Yandex ?
It's pretty powerfull and finds a lot of links that don't even appear in all the Western censored search engines.

You are missing the point he is making, being in Russia which has loose privacy laws, for all you know your data is being sold to the highest bidder. And I don't mean google style where they match ads with you, I mean your actual personal data.

The whole point of google alternative is precisely to have privacy. If you are so called trying to go around censorship, you are not going to get that with yandex. Just last month there was a leak of yandex source code which shows yandex does their own share of censorship far worse than most search engines. I would be even more careful of their results precisely because Russia has had a long history of funding political descent in other countries.

PS I've never ran into links that won't appear inside western search engines as you claim. If they don't appear they are most likely adult content which can be toggled. Otherwise, most of the time when people say censorship, they are talking about auto suggest or deranking. But you can still find them just fine.
Title: Re: 4 alternative search engines to help wave farewell to Google
Post by: Arrell on March 29, 2023, 11:50:01
Brave sometimes uses Bing results and has dependencies on Google.

DDG is entirely reliant on Bing.

They are not true alternatives.