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Apple M1 proves its mettle once again, beats the AMD Ryzen 9 5980HS and Intel Core i9-10980HK handsomely in native single-core tests

Started by Redaktion, March 04, 2021, 11:00:29

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Quote from: StephenJ on March 05, 2021, 21:48:28
Absolutely love the hate apple is getting on these articles. Look at these internet heroes trying to call out apple. True fanboys who circle jerk anything outside of apple. Pathetic and hilarious to read  ;D

Absolutely hilarious how CrApple Sheeple like you lot can't understand all the "native" Geekbench crap results that CrApple and lackey websites like notebookchat keep using. Really how stupid can you Sheep be? Pathetic!

Amir Nawaz

Dumb benchmarking. I love how most ppl miss the complete fact that when u benchmark hardware using an app running on different OSs you completely skewed the results right there. 

Simple rule of benchmarking: the variable can only be one. Otherwise you'll get variance. So if you're benching a GPU...the runs have to be identical, u have to use identical cases, identical drivers (or at least best drivers for competing brands which in themselves can cause variance), identical API (DX 11 vs DX12 vs Vulkan etc), same mobo and RAM and Windows version even and you even should for most accurate results use the same PC case. 


You're benching the M1 no doubt on the super lightweight incapable OS known as MacOS and comparing it to Intel and AMD CPUs benched on Windows? Lmao completely incomparable results right there. Put the Intel or AMD CPU in the MacBook, it'll rip the M1 to shreds. Or put the M1 in a Windows PC, poor thing will choke and die.

SMH

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Quote from: nicholai on March 05, 2021, 17:50:35
These are just single-thread performance benchmarks too, right?
So it's half an AMD core vs a full M1 core and AMD still comes out on top.
You can't say it's half a core. The core supports two threads, but they share resources. That one thread can still make use of practically everything in the core. What SMT does is improve utilization of resources (a thread is not using everything all the time). The benefit depends on workload. It's like with two humans sharing a workspace. Sometimes, you get along fine. And sometimes, you constantly wait on each other, needing the same tools. You'll never get double the performance. Even 30 % is a very good result in the real world. As I wrote, enabling SMT can actually slow some programs down. But it's cheap to implement.

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Quote from: Astar on March 05, 2021, 22:54:58
Absolutely hilarious how CrApple Sheeple like you lot can't understand all the "native" Geekbench crap results that CrApple and lackey websites like notebookchat keep using. Really how stupid can you Sheep be? Pathetic!
I recall Anandtech defending GeekBench, despite them using SPEC in their analysis. It placed similarly. And CB R23 results are where I would expect them based on that article.

It is remarkable that Apple can play with the best x86 cores. But the truly astonishing feat is the pace they have been keeping. And it doesn't look like their architecture is running out of breath.

_MT_

Quote from: Sumedh on March 05, 2021, 15:24:10
2) As per cpubenchmark.net, both Ryzen 5800U and 4800U have higher power efficiency than Apple M1. Go figure.
That's no mystery. They use what they call Max TDP to gauge efficiency. Confusingly, as it's not the maximum TDP that the processor can be configured to. Not to mention that using TDP is just stupid in the first place. And it happens to be 15 W for both 4800U and 5800U and 15.1 W for M1. It's a useless chart. A typical 4800U is not going to be consuming 15 W when running at full tilt.

Nope

This is idiotic. The AMD 5980 (anything in the 59 series) is specifically designed for multicore processing and has intentionally slower cores to manage the tdp.

Why didn't you compare the M1 to the 5800? Because it would have wiped the floor. So dishonest and the comments reflect that.

Fosdyke

Recently created Python 3.9.2 (M1 optimised) + MySQL test and run on two machines, M1 Mac mini and 2020 iMac i7-10700K. Task was to compare 2 table data, 18.5M records to 10M records.
1 core: Mac mini - 140h, iMac - 170h
4 cores: Mac mini - 36h, iMac - didn't test it
8 cores: Mac mini - 27h, iMac - 26h
16 threads: iMac - 27h
iMac's Intel i7-10700K hit max temp in first seconds of test even it was showing only 105W/50% cpu usage . In 16 thread test cpu 105W/99% usage, but no performance gains at all. On the other hand, M1 performed without a whisper, silently and cool. Apple silicons has an unbelievable potential.

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