Lenovo has started selling the IdeaPad 5 laptop with a Ryzen 4000 APU from AMD inside it. The 14-inch model with an AMD Ryzen 5 4500U can be had for a price starting at US$649.99 in the US, while shoppers in the UK can go for a cheaper 15-inch variant with the Ryzen 3 4300U chip from £404.99 (US$501). Lenovo customers in Germany are spoiled for choice.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-5-featuring-AMD-s-Ryzen-5-4500U-APU-goes-on-sale-starting-at-US-649-99-cheaper-Ryzen-3-4300U-variant-available-in-some-countries.463002.0.html
Lol.
If the author of this article would have searched for lenovo UK, here in Europe, you can build your own ideapad with cpus from 4300u to 4800u. 4600u with 512ssd and good ips 300 nits panel for about 550£.
You can opt not to have Win 10, than you have a discount of 90£.
To do some research is always good, not to almost copy paste an article from other sites...
Cheers
lol, look how cheap renoirs are
4500 6/6 default
4600u 6/12 +30 gold
4700 8/8 +70 gold
4800 8/16 +100 gold
just a reminder, 8 zen-2 cores is a freaking monster, especially in "u", 15w category. it doubles(!) the performance of the previous fastest 15w chip.
It amazes me, that we are in 2020 and manufacturers still offer 8GB RAM as maximum configuration. I ve had laptops with 8gb configuration since 2011. 16GB should have been the new standard by now.
Having a powerful RYZEN cpu, combined with minimum RAM, baffles me.
Same goes for other brands.
Quote from: Corsair on April 27, 2020, 07:09:46
It amazes me, that we are in 2020 and manufacturers still offer 8GB RAM as maximum configuration. I ve had laptops with 8gb configuration since 2011. 16GB should have been the new standard by now.
Having a powerful RYZEN cpu, combined with minimum RAM, baffles me.
Same goes for other brands.
This is considered as a budget lineup. What do you expect?
Quote from: Aegis on April 27, 2020, 10:40:47
This is considered as a budget lineup. What do you expect?
lineup? no. 8gb is the top option for the lower model in the lineup, where 4gb is soldered already. 4+4, you know.
and if 8gb is soldered, we have an option for 8+8.
seems pretty logical for me.
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This is considered as a budget lineup. What do you expect?
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If you pay 40£ more, you can opt for 16gb instead of 8gb for any cpu configuration!
Wow, the upgrades are fairly cheap, like wow. You can upgrade to a 8 core 4700u for 70 pounds and to 16gigs for 40 pounds, bringing the whole thing to 670 pounds.....damn....an 8 core laptop at that price......is this real life?
Quote from: Padmakara on April 26, 2020, 14:54:43
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You can opt not to have Win 10, than you have a discount of 90£.
To do some research is always good, not to almost copy paste an article from other sites...
Cheers
How do you do that? was trying on the UK site to customize it but there is no option to remove windows completely on the first customization location?
Quote from: Grumps on April 27, 2020, 12:08:13
Quote from: Padmakara on April 26, 2020, 14:54:43
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You can opt not to have Win 10, than you have a discount of 90£.
To do some research is always good, not to almost copy paste an article from other sites...
Cheers
How do you do that? was trying on the UK site to customize it but there is no option to remove windows completely on the first customization location?
Looks like Lenovo got smart and now they force you to buy with win10 home.
Yesterday I checked for a friend and it was possible, -90£ free dos
Quote from: Grumps on April 27, 2020, 12:02:35
Wow, the upgrades are fairly cheap, like wow. You can upgrade to a 8 core 4700u for 70 pounds and to 16gigs for 40 pounds, bringing the whole thing to 670 pounds.....damn....an 8 core laptop at that price......is this real life?
i know, right. but 4700u->4800u for 30 gold is a no brainer. extra 8 threads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jf7itO2YKg
versus macbook and dell xps
i have no clue why would somebody buy intel platform in 2020.
Threads isn't really much gain from multithreading,(4700 vs 4800) bsd guys even recommend to disable it for security concerns. Although it has higher max clock and rx vega 8 over rx vega 7, totally worth of 30£
You have here 4800u review of Lenovo next.lab501.ro/notebook/english-lenovo-ideapad-s540-13are-vs-13iml-amd-ryzen-7-4800u-vs-intel-core-i7-10710u
Quote from: william blake on April 27, 2020, 13:22:42i have no clue why would somebody buy intel platform in 2020.
Users who use Thunderbolt 3 peripherals like eGPU have no choice right now.
We don't have any AMD laptops with TB3.
But in terms of price/performance value new AMD chips are really amazing.
Quote from: Me on April 27, 2020, 14:39:53
Users who use Thunderbolt 3 peripherals like eGPU have no choice right now.
We don't have any AMD laptops with TB3.
But in terms of price/performance value new AMD chips are really amazing.
1.thunderbolt intel laptops is a minority, and some amd will have it too.
2.egpu users is a minority(of the minority above)
3. no, not price/performance. performance. and price. so price/performance squared.
Having that second thread is equivalent to 30% of a single processor. So an eight core processor has just eight cores but an 8-core multi-threaded processor has the equivalent of 10.4 cores. In other words a multi-threaded processor has his much extra CPU as an entire i7 mobile CPU from just three years ago!
Quote from: systemBuilder on April 27, 2020, 18:19:01
Having that second thread is equivalent to 30% of a single processor. So an eight core processor has just eight cores but an 8-core multi-threaded processor has the equivalent of 10.4 cores. In other words a multi-threaded processor has his much extra CPU as an entire i7 mobile CPU from just three years ago!
Maybe thats what benchmarks say but in real world applications its not that simple
So they removed option in UK to opt out windows, so we have to pay 90$ more. cool
Quote from: Padmakara on April 27, 2020, 12:16:22
Looks like Lenovo got smart and now they force you to buy with win10 home.
Yesterday I checked for a friend and it was possible, -90£ free dos
German configurator still has that option. It's interesting. The hardware options are pretty good value all around, but Windows are relatively expensive compared to what they commonly offer on ThinkPads. The SSDs are also curious with three 512 GB options. 2242 TLC, 2280 QLC and 2280 TLC, with price increasing in that order. What's the benefit of the more expensive 2280 TLC compared to the 2242 TLC one? Configurator doesn't say (at least I didn't see anything distinguishing them aside from size).
Interestingly, they claim the display is 1920x1200 in several places. I doubt it, it wouldn't be the first time they got that wrong.
Quote from: chxei on April 27, 2020, 19:33:43
So they removed option in UK to opt out windows, so we have to pay 90$ more. cool
brexit. pretty fair.
Quote from: Padmakara on April 27, 2020, 14:22:20
You have here 4800u review of Lenovo next.lab501.ro/notebook/english-lenovo-ideapad-s540-13are-vs-13iml-amd-ryzen-7-4800u-vs-intel-core-i7-10710u
Nice review. It must be the first normal laptop from Lenovo I have seen in a long time with a 8:5 screen. Even the pictures look like it actually is 8:5 and not just a marketing cock up. It just looks much better than 16:9. Problem is that I can't see it anywhere. German website doesn't have any 13" version and UK has it, but with previous generation processors. I guess they're coming? Unfortunately, the 14 and 15 still seem to be 16:9.
It really makes me look forward to a proper ThinkPad with Renoir. It's going to be really funny if the humble T15 spanks X1 Extreme. If only they gave it proper battery worthy of a 15" chassis. It would be the first time I wouldn't mind P5xs having a 15 W processor. Except I imagine they're probably going to stick with Intel on the P version.
according to psref
all renoir ideapads-igpu only. lntel ideapads-igpu, both hd and and iris, mx330, mx350.
same old story.
Quote from: william blake on April 27, 2020, 21:43:25
according to psref
all renoir ideapads-igpu only. lntel ideapads-igpu, both hd and and iris, mx330, mx350.
same old story.
Renoir Vega 8 with LPDDR4X outperforms the MX 250/330 and is ~5% on average behind the MX350. Even with the slower DDR4 version, why would you want a dGPU?
Quote from: william blake on April 27, 2020, 11:39:30
Quote from: Aegis on April 27, 2020, 10:40:47
This is considered as a budget lineup. What do you expect?
lineup? no. 8gb is the top option for the lower model in the lineup, where 4gb is soldered already. 4+4, you know.
and if 8gb is soldered, we have an option for 8+8.
seems pretty logical for me.
You can combine any size DIMM with any size soldered RAM, the only drawback is that only 2x the soldered capacity will run in dual channel. Still, stick a 16GB SODIMM in there and you have 20GB. It's not ideal, but you certainly aren't limited to 8GB.
Quote from: Valantar on April 27, 2020, 23:16:50
You can combine any size DIMM with any size soldered RAM
we are talking about what you can buy from them.
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Quote from: Valantar on April 27, 2020, 23:14:53
Renoir Vega 8 with LPDDR4X outperforms the MX 250/330 and is ~5% on average behind the MX350. Even with the slower DDR4 version, why would you want a dGPU?
you guys all the same. never learn, never listen, always ignoring all the data, opinions, logic, never brings any data to the table( yes, where is your links to some testing). all integrated graphics believers are not users, at list not expirienced users, but just holywar warriors.
i guess ill skip this religious point this time.
I checked the German configurator again and they're still playing with it. Processors got more expensive, Windows got cheaper, 4 GB RAM appeared and 16 GB disappeared from one of the two configurable models, SSDs got more expensive, I think battery got bigger and who knows what else.
Quote from: william blake on April 28, 2020, 03:03:07
Quote from: Valantar on April 27, 2020, 23:14:53
Renoir Vega 8 with LPDDR4X outperforms the MX 250/330 and is ~5% on average behind the MX350. Even with the slower DDR4 version, why would you want a dGPU?
you guys all the same. never learn, never listen, always ignoring all the data, opinions, logic, never brings any data to the table( yes, where is your links to some testing). all integrated graphics believers are not users, at list not expirienced users, but just holywar warriors.
i guess ill skip this religious point this time.
I've provided you with plentiful documentation for this previously, if you either don't remember or choose to ignore it, that's on you. Sadly there are no proper published reviews of U-series laptops yet (likely because they are only just trickling into the market), but there is enough leaked data from reputable sources to make the numbers I quoted relatively safe. Of course the TDP of the system will play into this, and a 25W configuration is likely to game much better than a 15W one.
For the nth time, here's the most concise leaked benchmark data for now, and ironically it's from the benchmark comparison engine here at NotebookCheck with a (likely 25W) Lenovo Yoga Slim 7: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/renoir-r7-4800u-results-leaked-from-lenovo-yoga-slim-7-14are-review.2578105/
As for the rest of your ad hominem babble: please take that garbage elsewhere. It just makes you look silly - where are
your arguments,
your data? All you are doing is trying to insult people as a way of derailing the debate, and all you are achieving is making yourself look terrible. I would recommend taking a step or two back and taking a look at what you are actually saying to people.
Can anyone tell me which option is for the 100% sRGB screen? Can't find any info on this. The most expensive one with marginally reduced bezel width?
When will more configurable options options (like 4800u and 16gb ram) be available in the United States?