Dell's latest 14-inch business subnotebook feels like the most refined Latitude laptop in years. But for what you're paying, we think it could use a little more auxiliary features to better reflect the high price.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Dell-Latitude-7410-Laptop-Review-The-Lenovo-X1-Carbon-Has-Met-Its-Match.479563.0.html
They have removed the Ethernet. Why is this not mentioned?
You should stop with the "too bad no Ryzen option", since it is getting a bit boring and unprofessional.
Just so you know, most of the professional laptops are made with a very big contribution of Intel engineers, so I don't think it is fair for them to go and fit a CPU from another company that basically did nothing for that design. It is like BMW will go to Mercedes Benz to buy engines to put in their 3 series just because Mercedes has better engines. No, the 3 series is a BMW design and it is rightful to have a BMW engine.
If AMD wants a bigger presence in this market, they should step up their game, invest money and engineering resources in creating quality designs for OEMs and support them during the development.
QuoteYou should stop with the "too bad no Ryzen option", since it is getting a bit boring and unprofessional.
Users and reviewers should always remind what they want new Ryzen CPUs in laptops, or OEMs will think
"ok, nobody cares, we don't need to implement Ryzen CPUs in our products".
Nobody was saying that when first mobile Ryzen came out, because they was not so interesting in comparison to Intel, but Renoir/Ryzen 4000 is something really new and better in many ways.
How does an Idle Average power consumption of 6.2 watts give 1879 min of Idle Battery Runtime?
On the LibreOffice PDF benchmark .. are those secs? If so, how is the AMD 4700U the slowest laptop in the comparisons? Even slower than the 4300U.
Sigh, another childs toy passing off as a "business laptop", poor trackpad, no touchpoint...
And being a Dell, 48 degrees on a laptop with no dedicated graphics and not even Iris but UHD...
When will dell hire people to do proper thermal management?
Quote from: dasdasdsa on July 07, 2020, 19:34:10
You should stop with the "too bad no Ryzen option", since it is getting a bit boring and unprofessional.
Just so you know, most of the professional laptops are made with a very big contribution of Intel engineers, so I don't think it is fair for them to go and fit a CPU from another company that basically did nothing for that design. It is like BMW will go to Mercedes Benz to buy engines to put in their 3 series just because Mercedes has better engines. No, the 3 series is a BMW design and it is rightful to have a BMW engine.
If AMD wants a bigger presence in this market, they should step up their game, invest money and engineering resources in creating quality designs for OEMs and support them during the development.
This isn't just about it not being AMD, learn to read. They are saying that no Ryzen or Intel Iris options, only UHD. Which means the GPU is lacking.
Not to mention you do realize all the internals is the manufacturers problem, not the consumers problem. There is nothing wrong with insuring manufacturers keep up a standard. How they go about it is THEIR problem.
Your "professional advice" is the reason why we get crappier and crappier laptops by the year. Because reviewers are not holding manufacturers to any standard and just accepting things as-is.
QuoteThis isn't just about it not being AMD, learn to read. They are saying that no Ryzen or Intel Iris options, only UHD. Which means the GPU is lacking.
With Tiger Lake right around the corner, which is competitive with AMD integrated graphics, it wouldn't really make sense to switch to AMD for a single year of them on top. There's no Iris option because there's to Ice Lake with vPro, same as with the ThinkPad lineup (though a few ThinkPad models are testing the water with AMD this year). AMD will have to prove that it can maintain it's lead over Intel for long enough to justify companies making the switch.
About 300g too heavy.
Quote from: eclyps on July 07, 2020, 21:57:45
QuoteThis isn't just about it not being AMD, learn to read. They are saying that no Ryzen or Intel Iris options, only UHD. Which means the GPU is lacking.
With Tiger Lake right around the corner, which is competitive with AMD integrated graphics, it wouldn't really make sense to switch to AMD for a single year of them on top. There's no Iris option because there's to Ice Lake with vPro, same as with the ThinkPad lineup (though a few ThinkPad models are testing the water with AMD this year). AMD will have to prove that it can maintain it's lead over Intel for long enough to justify companies making the switch.
Tigerlake will have to face the next gen Ryzen. And AMD has made it that manufacturers don't need to do anything and can use last years designs for the upcomming processors.
Aside from price, Comet Lake and the thermal management are the real issues with this device. I would suggest staying away from it
Ae mc
How come this was targeted at the X1 Carbon, rather than the T490/T14 series?
Dell Latitude 7400 was positioned against the ThinkPad T490. It doesn't have an ethernet port, lost the dual trackpoint, and have fewer ports.
X1 Carbon feels one tier up still.
Now that 7410 removed the upgradeable RAM (a X1 downside, rather than upside) - it's been somehow upgraded in its positioning? Personally, I know buyers that won't touch the 7 series now due to the lack of upgradeable RAM
How is this matched against a X1 Carbon when this "standard" business model is 300g heavier? Weight makes a fair difference. I agree it's pitched against a T14/s not X1.
They've got a new product design rolling out every season. Not good.
I am currently using a 7490, which appears equal or or better than this model 2 generations later?!
so all DELL latitude 9510, 7410, 7310 scored 89. you have a rule that thinkpads always get 90, no matter how much quality has been sacrificed since lenovo took over thinkpad. used thinkpad T41, T42 T43, T60..... I can tell there's been material, build quality, QA, warranty... sacrificed if you compare IBM thinkpad to LENOVO thinkpad.
how much LENOVO pay you ?
our rating is a combination of all the measurements we take and subratings from our experienced authors and senior editors.
The only one who pays us is Bill Gates to microchip all readers using 5G ... oh damn, did I say that out loud?
The X1 carbon is still better and lighter lol and some configs are cheaper
it seems that Dell don't offer 4k or UHD screen with touch screen option. I have to upgrade to XPS then to have the touch screen for bigger resolution than 1080p.
I have this and its not that bad but it suffers from the same loose trackpad issue the xps 15 suffers from. Shame that a billion dollar company cannot make a good trackpad when $500 lenovo laptops have better ones LOL fail Dell
I used to be a big fan of Dell's Latitude series but this is a complete sh*t... My Latitude track record: E6410, E5450, 7480 and now this one... all previous modes had their issues but were good at being a PCs. I think the build quality of 7410 is not acceptable at this price point. Welded RAM on Latitude is a joke, what is more laptop thermals are horrible – as a result glue that hold rubber bottom stands melts... My recommendation is DO NOT BUT THIS!! This product made me stop being Dell's Latitude customer.
I'm with you. I have the 7420 and the touchpad is horrible.
If you're writing code, you're going to have a hard time selecting text using this touchpad.