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Title: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: Redaktion on August 09, 2020, 22:26:13
At around $1100 USD, the Eluktronics RP-17 is about the same price as most Intel-powered versions with the same GeForce RTX 2060 GPU, but the Ryzen 7 4800H will be faster than any mobile Core i7 option you can find.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Eluktronics-Matrix-RP-17-Laptop-Review-Core-i9-Performance-Without-The-Core-i9-Price.484138.0.html
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: Agfsfhxzafhx on August 10, 2020, 07:52:26
Stop being annoying. There is a technical reason why oems don't install better gpus with Renoir. Renoir has very few pcie lanes and they will bottleneck a higher than 2060 gpu.
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: kajlsd on August 10, 2020, 09:21:03
I don't know, 2060 Max-P design with up to 110w TDP is not that bad.
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: DeepskyScorpion on August 10, 2020, 11:01:04
No 2.5-inch SATA III support, cannot recharge via USB-C, no per-key RGB lighting? These are some funny downsides lol. Solid review and solid laptop overall.
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: DeepskyScorpion on August 10, 2020, 11:02:48
Quote from: Agfsfhxzafhx on August 10, 2020, 07:52:26
Stop being annoying. There is a technical reason why oems don't install better gpus with Renoir. Renoir has very few pcie lanes and they will bottleneck a higher than 2060 gpu.

1. What evidence in solid numbers concluded by published test data do we have that pcie gen3 x8 bottlenecks a mobile full power 2070/super? 150w or 115w, whichever.

2. Renoir on desktop does have x16 sooooo
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: LL on August 10, 2020, 16:52:21
Finally something to look for.


"no per-key RGB lighting "

This what puts me off with Notebookcheck.net reviews.
In reviews the standards are not the same, did the author criticized and listed every other laptop that lacked this?
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: Denis on August 14, 2020, 20:07:40
The bleeding on the screen is much to excessive for me to tolerate, if this would be corrected, this could be a good choice.
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: A User on August 29, 2020, 21:53:39
I have one on order. If it has this light bleed, it's going right back.
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: Spunjji on September 08, 2020, 16:09:07
Quote from: Agfsfhxzafhx on August 10, 2020, 07:52:26
Stop being annoying. There is a technical reason why oems don't install better gpus with Renoir. Renoir has very few pcie lanes and they will bottleneck a higher than 2060 gpu.

Absolute balderdash. Do a quick Google search and you can easily find a GamersNexus article comparing the GTX 1080 running on 8 lanes and 16 lanes of PCIe 3.0 - the performance difference is 1%. The mobile 2070 has basically the same performance as the desktop 1080, so there's your answer.

How about you stop being annoying with your repetition of falsehoods?
Title: Re: Eluktronics Matrix RP-17 Laptop Review: Core i9 Performance Without The Core i9 Price
Post by: Spunjji on September 08, 2020, 16:20:05
Quote from: DeepskyScorpion on August 10, 2020, 11:02:48
1. What evidence in solid numbers concluded by published test data do we have that pcie gen3 x8 bottlenecks a mobile full power 2070/super? 150w or 115w, whichever.

None whatsoever. I just did some more searching and found that even the 2080Ti only takes an average ~3% hit from running at PCIe 8x.

The funny bit is that even if this were true, having a competitive marketplace would mean combining these parts anyway and either selling them cheaper or letting the customer decide. But no. Apparently it's fine for OEMs to produce AMD-based laptops with single-channel RAM, but not fine for them to sell MD-based laptops with a high-end GPU because "muh 1% performance difference". Highly convincing stuff!