We take a glimpse of what Intel's next generation of integrated graphics can do and it's pretty good for a 10 nm non-discrete solution. Now, Intel will have to price it just right to make it worth the purchase over existing Ryzen or GeForce MX-powered laptops that offer similar graphics performance.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Iris-Xe-G7-can-run-GTA-V-at-1080p-60-FPS-on-normal-settings-is-roughly-on-par-with-the-Radeon-RX-Vega-8-and-GeForce-MX250.494333.0.html
So next gen 28w intel igpu is as fast as current amd 15-25w igpu?
Quote from: jokes on September 18, 2020, 09:08:59
So next gen 28w intel igpu is as fast as current amd 15-25w igpu?
Faster actually
Hey Allen, why don't you run the XE graphics at 15W and then compare the results?
A couple of weeks ago you were complaining that 4800U in a slim and light notebook is slower than i9 9880H in a fat gaming laptop. Loved the roast in the comments in that article.
Why test with older drivers?
"impressive because Intel can offer similar performance with a larger 10 nm fabrication process and disappointing because it has taken them more than half a year just to be on equal footing with the 7 nm Zen 2 U-series."
Intel's 10nm process is comparable to tsm 7nm process in density, as you probably know.
AMD also had problems moving to a comparable process in their GF spin-off, which abandoned it. Intel has persevered ... and now has apparently solved 10nm clock speed issues with their new SuperFin process.
AMD led people to believe they were moving to EUV on zen3, but has apparently been unable to do so. Why is that?
Quote from: Christopher VanZetta on September 18, 2020, 10:31:59
Quote from: jokes on September 18, 2020, 09:08:59
So next gen 28w intel igpu is as fast as current amd 15-25w igpu?
Faster actually
I think his question was rhetorical, with more than a smidge of irony.
Now lets have 45w Tiger Lake H cpus, or else its a s*** product like ice lake
Quote from: JayN on September 19, 2020, 15:53:30
"impressive because Intel can offer similar performance with a larger 10 nm fabrication process and disappointing because it has taken them more than half a year just to be on equal footing with the 7 nm Zen 2 U-series."
Intel's 10nm process is comparable to tsm 7nm process in density, as you probably know.
AMD also had problems moving to a comparable process in their GF spin-off, which abandoned it. Intel has persevered ... and now has apparently solved 10nm clock speed issues with their new SuperFin process.
AMD led people to believe they were moving to EUV on zen3, but has apparently been unable to do so. Why is that?
Zen 3 is indeed going to be 7nm EUV. Vermeer and Cezanne 5000 series CPUs and APUs are the chips that will be Zen 3. Whats there in the market right now is Zen 2 on the non-EUV N7 node by TSMC. Who says otherwise?
Promising, yes, and performance is generally adequate in GTA V at low to moderate resolutions with low settings, but make sure you have at *least* 16GB RAM in your laptop for decent performance with GTA5; iGPU seems to require about 2 to 6 GB of shared memory. Also, I'm finding some versions of the Intel Iris XE graphics driver to be buggy or even unusable; the *.9466 driver version released in April was unusable in GTA5, crashing every few minutes (debug breakpoint/assertion failure (exception 0x80000003): DirectX 3d initialization failed). I had to roll back to the December drivers. (Perhaps I shouldn't be too hard on Intel though; it took *years* for NVidia to learn how to write stable graphics drivers, and Iris XE is very new.)