More vram on a 3080, my 2070S struggles with only 8gb.

Quote from: Middleseed on February 22, 2023, 13:19:41The 4070 ti is a hair above the 3080 for far more. I'd take the 3080 over the 4070 ti any day of the week.

Why the 4070ti is much more efficient? And you have some pretty nice new features in the 4070ti like dlss3

Quote from: Anony Mouse on February 23, 2023, 00:42:11The 4070ti also is a bad card from everything I've seen.

Do you mean the price or what else?

Huh?  I think i will still buy the 30 series coz it is cheaper.

That's a steal considering I paid crazy pandemic prices for my 3080. Financed it from Newegg for a total cost of $1500. Naturally though I just stopped paying for it. Let the collection agency stew in it. But still the notion of a card sold for actual msrp or less is amazing. When I bought my 1080 years ago it cost me $600 which was basically what it cost at launch still and it was four years old or more. The 4070ti also is a bad card from everything I've seen. A shameful addition to the 4000 series lineup

The 4070 ti is a hair above the 3080 for far more. I'd take the 3080 over the 4070 ti any day of the week.

This article is stupid. You can pay more money to get a better graphics card?! No way!! It would make sense if the 4070ti was only like $50 more but $150 price difference isn't just something you can be like I'll pay a little extra for the faster card. It's $150 whole a** dollars

Quote from: TheUser on February 21, 2023, 23:19:02Userbenchmark states 3.5 dollars per point on performance for RTX 4070 ti, while the RTX 3080 is just a hair more expensive at 3.5 dollars per performance point.

They're literally the same. 0.2 dollars different? That is extremely reasonable.

By your logic of constant price / performance aka Jensen's declaration of the end of Moore's Law aka stagnation of computer progress,
- a computer in 1945 might have cost $10^6,
- a computer in 2023 is (wild guess) 10^6 times as fast so we should pay $10^12.

By your logic,
- a GPU today might cost $10^3,
- a GPU in 25 years will be roughly 10^2 times as fast so we should pay, in terms of current money value, $10^5.

Userbenchmark states 3.5 dollars per point on performance for RTX 4070 ti, while the RTX 3080 is just a hair more expensive at 3.5 dollars per performance point.

They're literally the same. 0.2 dollars different? That is extremely reasonable. Whoever wrote this article doesn't know math. Less than a quarter per point of performance less of a good deal, who gives a s***?? don't waste my time

What enthusiasts know about the 4070s would make owning one embarrassing. Giving it a 4000s name is a famously questionable sales trick. Unless the price is drastically slashed, putting a 4070 in your PC would just about end all bragging rights.

The "much better" 4070ti???? I wouldn't call an average 5 fps in games "much better". I would call that $150 more a RIPOFF.

Quote from: Gavote on February 21, 2023, 11:00:03True, but the 3080 doesn't require buying a new PSU to use.

If you don't need a new PSU for the 3080, then you don't need a new PSU for the 4070ti. They said in the article the 4070ti uses less power...

There's no problem with that price at all...

Not to mention that the 6800xt has been on and off again for sale around $520 since November.

4070ti vs 3080 is a 20-something percent increase in performance, and the 850 bucks are a 21% increase over the 700 GALAX is asking. Is maths hard enough to warrant a braindead article like this one?
Or is your consumerism crazy enough to think everybody needs the bigger stick?