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Title: Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX Geekbench scores sound the death knell for Rembrandt and Apple Silicon
Post by: Redaktion on March 22, 2022, 17:35:44
Three new high-end Alder Lake processors have been benchmarked on Geekbench. The Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX are upcoming Alder Lake-HX processors slated for a May/June 2022 launch. They will have a base TDP of 55 W, and some models could offer extra cores/threads.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i9-12950HX-Core-i7-12850HX-Core-i5-12600HX-Geekbench-scores-sound-the-death-knell-for-Rembrandt-and-Apple-Silicon.609375.0.html
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX Geekbench scores sound the death knell f
Post by: The Werewolf on March 22, 2022, 19:22:31
Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX Geekbench scores sound the death knell for Rembrandt and Apple silicon

No, it really doesn't. This isn't a 'winner takes all' competition and it's not a single round event. Apple started this stupidity, but Intel basically reacted by panicking (which is bizarre since AMD is actually their competition, not Apple, who doesn't license their designs to anyone else).

Intel is ahead this round. AMD may be ahead in the next. Or Apple. Or Qualcomm (who ALSO makes ARM processors, lest we forget).

So maybe tone down the angst a little and just report the facts?
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX Geekbench scores sound the death knell f
Post by: Anonymousgg on March 22, 2022, 22:20:38
Quote from: The Werewolf on March 22, 2022, 19:22:31
Apple started this stupidity, but Intel basically reacted by panicking

That's not right either. Microarchitectures are planned years in advance. And which part is "stupid"?
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX Geekbench scores sound the death knell f
Post by: Rauger on March 22, 2022, 23:56:22
I really wish we stop using Geekbench to compare high-end CPUs  ::)

This benchmark just runs 20ish isolated tests, pushing the CPU for just short times (hello PL2 !), with 0,5 second pauses between each, so the CPU can "rest" and get ready for another PL2 burst ...

I can help but think that this pattern heavily favors Intel in a way that is really a joke considering the shitty thermal of their processors compared to AMD and Apple ...

I've compared a ton of Intel i9 of all recent generations to AMD 5900HX,5800H,4800H with Cinebench, Geekbench and FFMPEG custom tests.
Geekbench can show comparable scores but Intel CPUs absolutely collapse on Cinebench R20/R23 or FFMPEG that are throttling sensitive.

I'm still amazed at how many articles here and everywhere else on the web ignore that throttling/thermals aspects in the real-life performance equation ...
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX Geekbench scores sound the death knell f
Post by: ThinkPadT530 on March 23, 2022, 05:50:45
M1 is old. Its based on older chip design. We haven't seen much from AMD either , mostly based on a older design as well. Intel may look superior now but boy the competition is only heating up.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-12950HX, Core i7-12850HX, Core i5-12600HX Geekbench scores sound the death knell f
Post by: Tridents on March 24, 2022, 10:48:04
A truly unrealistic title considering that the M1 Ultra CPU consumes more or less the same than a 12950HX and has so much better performance, while the M1 Max consumes so much less. This shows how much of an advantage Apple Silicon brings into a battery powered devices.