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Title: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Redaktion on February 07, 2021, 08:16:19
The upcoming Intel Corei9-11900K managed to best the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X by over 13% on Geekbench's single-core benchmark. The 14nm Rocket Lake processor managed to net single-core scores of 1,905, 1,902 and 1,895. Its clock speed hovered around 5.3GHz at all times.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i9-11900K-blazes-past-the-AMD-Ryzen-9-5950X-in-Geekbench-single-core-test.519168.0.html
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Mikita on February 07, 2021, 08:43:10
Running at 100 degrees under 3-section water cooling? Great.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Mark P on February 07, 2021, 11:08:55
No mention of cooling. So did they use a chiller to achieve this over clock like they tried in CES 2 years ago, with it hidden inside a table and secret pipes through the bottom of the case.
Let me guess. The AMD one was on the stock cooler. Because going to geekbench, you can see the 5950x can achieve 1835 when running at 5.2GHz OC on a B550 board using AIO water cooling.

So the 5959X has better IPC still.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Phyzzi on February 07, 2021, 12:08:56
The sad truth is that, with Apple usurping chip production spots with the mediocre M1, Intel doesn't have to make a chip that's better, they just have to make one that's available and good enough. Business and industry mostly isn't going to be scraping ebay and the grey market for unicorns, they will grab work horses from a company they trust.

I'm not excusing Intel for their failures, especially their decade long lapse in R&D and decent management, but it could be another year before anything other than a mac is widely available on less than 10 nm.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: sener on February 07, 2021, 13:44:56
No mention of exact cooling and power draw for both CPUs.

Judging by Intel's long history of misleading ads, we can deduce that these numbers probably don't represent any reasonable comparison.

AMD is producing, while Intel is hoaxing.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: KL on February 07, 2021, 16:27:04
Typical of Intel to stand on top of a pile of cow turds and proclaim themselves a winner.

"Look, the processor we're releasing in 8months can almost trade blows with AMDs offering from 6months ago....when we skew the data with unequal conditions and handpick scores to submit to media outlets."
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Josh on February 07, 2021, 16:40:25
Is that with AVX512 enabled? I think this version of GB uses AVX512.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Alex Sosa on February 07, 2021, 17:07:20
Who cares about single core performance? Really, in 2021? Shame all programs that bottleneck a cpu into single core.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: JB on February 07, 2021, 17:30:08
yeah, i do soley audio production and wish software companies would utilize multi core, but in audio its all seriel processing, not parallel... so its all about the bottleneck needing to be a mile across!  im tryin to figure out Ryzen vs Intel single core war and make a purchase for homebuilt.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Papa smurf on February 07, 2021, 18:02:13
98 degrees to reach these scores. That's really sustainable intel good job. Maybe their next chip will require liquid nitrogen.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: meir on February 07, 2021, 18:55:14
Did they use the same 1HP 1770W industrial chiller that they used at Computex to show a 28 core Intel cpu running at 5.3GHz on all cores and got caught and humiliated by the professional reviewers for their attempted fraud?  And how about their paying a compiler company to sabotage AMD code for benchmarks and bribing a benchmark company to skew their results to favor Intel? And lets not forget Contra Revenue and bribing CEOs not to use AMD products?  I don't see how anyone can trust Intel on anything with their history of lying and deceptions
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: JayN on February 07, 2021, 19:27:46
It will be worth another 6 months to see what Alder Lake and 10esf is all about...  how they are using PCIE5, what DDR5 contributes, how big an architecture change is Golden Cove.  I expect Hotchips 2021 to provide the answers.

However, you know what you're getting with Rocket Lake.  It's kind of an evolution of their big gas guzzling muscle cars, souped up with a modern engine and 20 lanes of pcie4 .... Intel has already hinted they are providing exotic cooling solutions along with its launch.  See the youtube fullNerd episode "Intel talks Rocket Lake S news from CES 2021 | The Full Nerd special edition" for that conversation.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Piotr Wisniewski on February 07, 2021, 20:28:12
Nobody buy ryzen 9 for single core applications. Its power is in his 16 cores
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Bennyg on February 07, 2021, 22:11:09
To be fair, this isn't Intel claiming anything themselves here, they have just planted scores in an online database and let the tech press get wet about it and do their viral marketing for them, far more effectively than they could ever do themselves

Quote from: KL on February 07, 2021, 16:27:04
Typical of Intel to stand on top of a pile of cow turds and proclaim themselves a winner.

"Look, the processor we're releasing in 8months can almost trade blows with AMDs offering from 6months ago....when we skew the data with unequal conditions and handpick scores to submit to media outlets."
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Jay2021 on February 08, 2021, 02:02:05
Intel has little credibility. They're not above using dirty tricks.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Abdul Moiz on February 08, 2021, 09:07:54
Intel - 98c
AMD fan boys asses 11900c

No fans or coolers could chill them out
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: _MT_ on February 08, 2021, 12:17:46
Quote from: Piotr Wisniewski on February 07, 2021, 20:28:12
Nobody buy ryzen 9 for single core applications. Its power is in his 16 cores
The thing is 5950X is the best AMD has to offer when it comes to single core performance. Because it probably gets the highest bin dies. If 5950X can't win, probably nothing in the 5000 series will. And it's not like 900K is the first choice when all you want is single core performance. Intel has cheaper unlocked processors with high bin dies which should have similar single core potential. No, it's just a fact of life that many programs are limited by single core performance. And so it impacts your experience. Even though you might have other workloads that can use many cores and which were the reason you bought such a processor.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Noname00 on February 08, 2021, 13:48:01
Yeah, look at the score detail, crypto core is 5xxx in single core, and every body will love to run these avx512 every day. Most review site excluding gb5 for a reason
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Will on February 08, 2021, 14:23:28
Nobody stated you need 135+watts to feed that chip, no thanks.
Title: Re: Intel Core i9-11900K blazes past the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X in Geekbench single-core test
Post by: Vaughn on February 08, 2021, 16:54:51
MY 5800X scores

1707
Single-Core

10971
Multi-Core

So 10% lead in single core and 0.2% in multi which is essentially a tie.

my chip will boost to 5.02Ghz and RL is at 5.3Ghz so the difference in clock speeds is certainly helping that ST score.