Dear Allen, actually, if you look back at the i5 1135G7 notebook tests, you will find that they had versions from the same lenovo with a level of sustained performance in the region of 900 points in the CBR15. What do we see in i5 1235U@25W with a bunch of extra cores? A total shame even in version from Lenovo with high consumption.

If the performance of the 28W 1260P is impressive in general (at 35W+ TDP, he-he), then the i5 1235U is an Intel flop. Completely pointless SoC even at 25W. Waste of money, unless, of course, the prices for solutions with it fall by 30-40%, which I expect as inevitable.

I originally select  of 4 SoCs outside the H series - 1255U, 1240/1260/1280P. Everything else does not deserve attention.

The 1260P is especially good but  obviously cannot cost as much as the 12500H for a simple reason - it is much slow, and at the high selling price (according to Intel's announced wholesale prices), nobody needs it. Therefore, the same Huawei instead of 1260P install 12500H in "ultrabooks" (D16, 16s) and even with one heat pipe and a cooler instead of 2 in D16 (shame for Huawei), it gets a top result (unless, of course, you think about the fraud of Intel and manufacturers in the Cinebench test, which I already hinted at with the facts on hand)  vs. 1260P with 2 pipe and coolers.

Everything has its price. As my long-term observation has shown, even despite the fact that the crowd is little versed in the nuances of iron (like most iron testers), nevertheless, what is sold in stores is the most optimal in terms of speed/price ratio (at least so), because civil activists-techies still have enough influence on the public (moreover, in countries where the proportion of the population with higher education is the largest - the maximum influence, this is obvious) to give them at least a brief tactical understanding of the situation ..

Manufacturers are increasingly trying to sell the base array of the new model before the correct and caustic remarks begin to influence the minds of ordinary technically illiterate inhabitants. In the world of the universal Internet, this is quite fast, unless, of course, civil activists-technical specialists have a desire for this and there are gradually fewer such people, because constantly educating and updating qualified knowledge is hard work and a burden..

Quote from: NikoB on August 27, 2022, 14:23:42nuances of iron (like most iron testers)

Iron? Хау мач воч, man?
For broad audience - he meant "hardware", I suppose :).

Thank you the name of the "AI" from Google (Translator). That 10 years ago is stupid at level 3 ago child. All the screams in the press about neural networks and "AI" are profanity of rams. Realities are they - this is a dumb translator cannot follow the context of the proposal ... and the whole modern IT is approximately the same level ... =)