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Title: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Redaktion on March 19, 2018, 23:53:42
Be on the lookout for notebooks shipping with the MX150 'N17S-LG-A1' or '1D12' variant as GPU performance can be 20 to 25 percent slower than a "standard" MX150. The '1D12' label is essentially the Max-Q version of the MX150 and Nvidia has not been explicitly distinguishing between the two distinct MX150 versions in any of its promotional material thus far.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidia-has-been-quietly-shipping-slower-GeForce-MX150-1D12-variant-on-some-Ultrabooks.289358.0.html
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Damian on March 20, 2018, 08:44:48
Shame on you Nvidia.
My next notebook won't be with this company's discrete graphic card.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Valantar on March 20, 2018, 10:58:16
So, in other words, there's one MX150 variant that clearly beats AMD's newest APUs, and one that ties or loses to them (at least in 3DMark 11). That's pretty significant, especially considering the slower MX150 with a 15W CPU has the same thermal envelope as the best Ryzen 2500U and 2700U notebooks.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Wepo on March 20, 2018, 11:38:22
Haven't liked this company for a while.  Nvidia seems to be screaming: once you are on top, you go bad.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: bernhard1797 on March 20, 2018, 12:22:35
Is that the reason why the 3dmark 11 score on the T480s with mx150 is so low ?
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: JamesH on March 22, 2018, 23:29:38
Nvidia should have come up with two different GPU models. Like say an MX140 and MX150. Or MX150E for efficient or MX150P for power. Then they can put the technical fabrication specs that are set at the factory for each like the fill rates and bandwidth on their website. It would still be up to the laptop OEMs to detail the rest of the specs on things they can control like memory speeds and whatnot.

I do not see Nvidia hiding anything as it would make no sense to do so. Each GPU is bought by OEMs for different laptop performance needs (power consumption over performance or performance over power consumption). I simply see this as a disconnect between the laptop OEMs and Nvidia as well as a fail by marketing. A simple ten minute decision on a conference call could have prevented this.  ::)
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: mteechan on March 23, 2018, 07:35:31
A quick reminder here, Xiaomi Pro also uses a low power MX150, but overclocked out of the box.
zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/28344462 This Article already informed of the two versions of MX150 months ago.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: kyle on March 24, 2018, 07:07:52
So wondering if anyone else can test. My mi book goes to 1582/1252 when gaming, though I do have the lower end model.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Francisco on March 24, 2018, 12:26:27
There are more verions or at least one more.

My Xiaomi notebook pro has different version. The frecuencies are 1252/1341.

It is a screenshot: uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e45654c0338cb2042be395649b760d3359db597c2d7cb7b35ffeb88069f56450.gif (I don't have enought points to insert links)
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Vadim on March 24, 2018, 13:41:06
Someone with Asus Vivobook s15 s510un. Please tell me what mx150 do you have?
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Dimm74 on March 26, 2018, 21:02:06
Quote from: Vadim on March 24, 2018, 13:41:06
Someone with Asus Vivobook s15 s510un. Please tell me what mx150 do you have?
Quote from: Vadim on March 24, 2018, 13:41:06
Someone with Asus Vivobook s15 s510un. Please tell me what mx150 do you have?
1D10, S510un ok)
Title: Deceptive Marketing Class Action Investigation
Post by: MigRath on March 27, 2018, 21:56:16
For anyone who purchased a laptop with the underperforming MX150 GPU: The law firm of Migliaccio and Rathod LLP has recently opened an investigation into Nvidia's deceptive marketing of the GPU. As the article notes, it is difficult to know which MX150 chip a notebook or ultrabook uses. Considering the fact that the slower MX150 variant takes a 20-25% performance hit over its identically-named counterpart, this is no small issue.

Google Migliaccio & Rathod to find their website, then click on 'Blog' to find more information. I am unable to post links here.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: jabjab on April 07, 2018, 10:40:17
I have a notebook pro  with i5 and 8gb ram.
What I have discovered is that if you run GPU-Z it will show 1252 for both core and memory frequency.
But if you enable the option to save the sensor info to a log file and start a demanding game, when I go back to the log  file the memory has stayed constant at 1252 but the core goes all the way up to around 1600 (1632 was my max), as soon as you switch apps away from game it drops all the way down
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Jon Peterson on April 20, 2018, 21:40:33
Costco is selling a HP laptop with a 4GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 Graphics. I can't find a 4 GB, only 2 GB listed?

HP ENVY 17t Laptop - Intel Core i7 - •4GB NVIDIA GeForce MX150 Graphics- 1080p
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: rmcrys on April 30, 2018, 23:06:53
I already spent weeks ago but the post was not updated:

The Asus Zenbook Flip 14, UX461UN (at least my version, the i5, 8 GB RAM) comes with slower model.  Nevertheless playing complex games makes the computer very hot,  I can't imagine with the i7 and the fastest mx150!

I overclocked it to the Xiaomi Pro values (I didn't change the voltage) and it handles it very well.

On my setup the core goes up to 1252 , video RAM up to 1700, nevertheless it brings no real benefit to the cooler 1150 core, 1582 RAM. I think the RAM is the same for all just away different speeds according to the core,  the core nevertheless has two qualities: good faster speed or lower quality and speed
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: james03 on May 06, 2018, 12:08:45
Asus Zenbook UX430UN with "standard" '1D10' 'N17S-G1-A1' GeForce MX150.-gpu z tests shows this.Then why it ranked below average with id12 version gpu sir plz reply ?
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Struthio on May 06, 2018, 20:24:20
What happens when I overclock 1D12 variant to clock speeds of 1D10 ? Will this 'crippled' MX150 have the same performance as 'full' 1D10 ?
Is it possible to ex re-flash 1D12 with BIOS of 1D10 to enable full performance ?
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Apel on June 19, 2018, 08:36:35
Please someone who get the Asus VivoBook S14 S410UN-EB226T can say if there is 1D12 or 1D10 inside ? Thanks !
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: ax on June 27, 2018, 11:08:40
Quote from: Apel on June 19, 2018, 08:36:35
Please someone who get the Asus VivoBook S14 S410UN-EB226T can say if there is 1D12 or 1D10 inside ? Thanks !

According to this post some postst on reddit Asus Vivobook S14 S410UN

the specs is like this:
the model has the following config:
    Intel Core i7 8550u
    Nvidia GeForce MX150 4GB ( variant 1d10 )
    Memory: 12GB (8 GB Micron 2667 MHz + 4GB Samsung 2400 MHz)
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Klaus Hinum on June 28, 2018, 09:44:10
If you overclock the 1D12 to 1D10 levels, the speed should be similar, but you have too look for temperature and power problems, as there is a reason why the lower clocked version is used (smaller cooling system, limited power supply).
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Noah on July 28, 2018, 20:52:06
I just purchased a Huawei Matebook X Pro (i7 with 512 SSD version). Though it comes with the MX-150 its the 1D12 version at the slower clock speed. You can tell -- very disappointing.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Nitesh on August 22, 2018, 20:52:36
Hmm. Looking at the lower tier of MX150 scores, I suppose that makes the Iris Plus 655 in the MBP 13 substantially less disappointing for missing out on the MX150. There's still a boost with the lower wattage MX150, but a small one, and where it's significantly faster laptops are also understandably significantly larger.
Title: Re: Nvidia has been quietly shipping slower GeForce MX150 '1D12' variant on some Ultrabooks
Post by: Hawk on November 27, 2019, 11:55:17
My MX150 is 10de-1d10-17aa3963
texture fillrate 36.8 GTexel/s
Bandwitch 48.1 GB/s
Pixel rate 24.5 GPixel/s
Clock 1532 MHz in boost