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USA finds Huawei Mate 60 Pro 'deeply worrying': US Secretary of Commerce threatens new sanctions

Started by Redaktion, December 12, 2023, 23:05:21

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Redaktion

Huawei has been largely driven out of the Western smartphone market by strict US sanctions, but the Chinese technology giant is not giving up. Several months ago, the company launched a 5G smartphone onto the market for the first time since the start of the sanctions, which is now causing a headache for the USA.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/USA-finds-Huawei-Mate-60-Pro-deeply-worrying-US-Secretary-of-Commerce-threatens-new-sanctions.782605.0.html

Gallo123

Can't wait for another black swan event to pummel the US economy. Only a matter of time, BoA isn't looking too good.

Rolfhu

The US can't do anything to stop the fast delevlopment of new chips in China. US companies will loose more business thanks to the Biden administration. Biden gets his money from the Ukraine and China was probably not willing to pay him personally. Go China.

PassingBy

> US accused Huawei of violating sanctions
The company under sanctions cannot "violate" sanctions. Sanction is a threat: don't do business with them or I will not do business with you. Some third party can supply its products to Huawei(1 step) and then supply some product to US companies(2 step). In this scenario, step 2 is violation of sanctions by some third party company, not by Huawei.

PassingBy

> South Korean manufacturer SK Hynix
> Dutch market leader ASML
I just love how US officials run around the world bashing foreign companies for dealing with chinese companies in a de jure free market economy instead of helping american companies to manufacture products capable of competing in foreign markets.
I think it would be more effective to find out why foreign consumers prefer to buy a Huawei Mate 60 Pro smartphone, which costs more than an iPhone 15 Pro instead of trying to force people into buying iPhone 15 Pro they don't want. Then, try to create a working environment where people will be able to innovate and design next market-competitive iPhone instead of saving pennies on your own employees to be able to deliver profits to 10% of population.

CBC

China should sanction US companies and use the lame a** national security reason that the USA thrusts out there.

NikoB

Quote from: CBC on December 13, 2023, 21:50:01China should sanction US companies and use the lame a** national security reason that the USA thrusts out there.
And at this moment, smart readers will immediately ask Chinese propagandists - why aren't the Chinese authorities doing anything serious against American companies? ))
Yes, for a simple reason - China is the king with a bare a**. No matter how stupid American officials were, they were still smart enough not to allow the most advanced equipment to be supplied to mainland China. That is why everything important is concentrated nearby in Taiwan and South Korea, which are under US control and covered by their missile defense system.

And the fact that greedy American capitalists ruined their own country - what's new in that? Greedy and cynical capital always flows to where it can squeeze more profit from the worker. It is obvious that in Asia labor is several times cheaper than in the US and EU. For this reason they killed the American and European working class. Leaving only layers consisting of speculators of all stripes as the "middle class".

China explicitly admits that it does not have the human capital to even catch up with the US in its current level of technology. But a real "center of power" must not only catch up with a competitor, but be able to get ahead of it, so that the world becomes more interested in cooperation with it than with the United States. So far, everything is exactly the opposite, to the screams of stupid propagandists in China, Russia, Iran and even more trifles.

Brains decide everything. But China clearly doesn't have enough brains. The quantity of the population does not translate into its quality of human capital.

The USA, of course, has become rotten to the core over the past 30 years, but it is still a leading center of scientific and technological progress, like its closest satellites in Europe and other countries. China is just a catching up industrial country rather than a post-industrial one.
Iron without brains is worth nothing...

Eleetx

it's been reported that SK Hynix memory was stolen and NOT supplied by the South Korean company and that there currently an investigation going on yet the article seems to imply blame and that South Korea purposely ignored sanctions.
SMH...

Alter ego

The US is like a child, if they can't get their way they throw tantrums.
The US will underhandedly steal technology, sabotage other countries progress etc to advance their own agenda.
Watch how suddenly the Iran space program will develop problems...

Ade

We know America's antecedents. We know the system and the character. We also know China's line of thinking. As an African, which one do I prefer, none. However, amongst the 2 evils, if I have no options but to choose, I'll choose America. The Chinese have no heart nor restrain from any form of warped self interest. No balance of power. Leave the world to the Chinese, then see your whole existence go up in smoke. We wait to see how the power struggle pans out.

NikoB

Quote from: Ade on December 14, 2023, 11:02:09We wait to see how the power struggle pans out.
When people with good intentions wait passively, evil always flourishes and wins. This is proven by the entire sad history of mankind.

Nek0i

I remember they were a national security risk mentioning spying during the original sanctions. So how does this become "deeply concerning" since you are still not importing their products?

If it was for (obviously) petty market gains, it was bound for failure in the long run. You get ahead by selling them your innovations. Like how Qualcomm & Google sells their stuff\services to Huawei. And now you force them to produce their own, and you expect them to just sit there and cry over the sanctions forever? They are all companies driven by gain...

Dwen

The US should actively look for more ways to track and crack down harder on Huawei and other Chinese companies that are found not only attempting to break sanctions and involved in blatant IP theft but also involved one way or another in numerous human rights abuses in China and worldwide.

Mohamed Abdallah Said

What happen to free trade.When we lose are game we change the rules.At least USA should have used the WTO to change the rules.

Mohamed Abdallah Said

What happen to free trade.You cannot change the rules of the game after loosing it.At least the USA could have gone to WTO instead of promoting protectionism which never helped the world economy

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