After a two-year fight with Tesla's assembly quality, repair customer service, and interior trimmings, a Model S owner finally traded it for a Chrysler 300. The big V8 sedan checked all the boxes for them, down to the fact that they have physical knobs to control the A/C or car stereo volume while driving without looking to a screen.
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tesla-Model-S-owner-trades-it-for-a-Chrysler-300-V8-on-quality-issues-says-Tesla-s-charging-network-only-good-thing-about-it.600237.0.html
As much as I dislike some of Tesla's quality assurance practices, a clear pattern emerges for "poor choices" quality wise.
Hey, you can't blame him. Tesla batteries aren't environmentally-friendly
either. The media likes to forget about this part.
Frankly, the fact this gentleman prefers the Chrysler over a Tesla S says it all. He did not buy the car that fit his needs or desires when he bought the model S. They make many different automobiles for good reasons. Different strokes for different folks as they say. Wish him the best of luck.
Does the model S not have the same steering wheel volume control as the model 3?
Quote from: sorin on February 16, 2022, 16:25:39
Hey, you can't blame him. Tesla batteries aren't environmentally-friendly
either. The media likes to forget about this part.
They are far more environmentally friendly than driving a V8 car!
Battery recycling will be big business soon.
Quote from: Scottt on February 16, 2022, 22:36:15
Frankly, the fact this gentleman prefers the Chrysler over a Tesla S says it all. He did not buy the car that fit his needs or desires when he bought the model S. They make many different automobiles for good reasons. Different strokes for different folks as they say. Wish him the best of luck.
The problem is that manufacturers think that just because you transition to an EV everything else has to be reinvented. The most simplest, elegant and safest solutions are modified for the sake of change.
There is nothing wrong with more technology but for instance digital controls for volume is extremely dumb since audio by nature is an analogue concept and the biggest reason why a volume knob is a must is for fine tuning. It's not the deal breaker for Tesla but it says a lot about their philosophy on design: it's not designed for humans.
I think electric cars have a place for those who want them. But they are not a 100% practical for everyone. I have not heard a lot of people talking about how much pollution it takes to make these batteries. Or when The cars get wrecked and the batteries get Smashed And are no longer usable there is no place to recycle the batteries. So all we're doing is trading one problem for another. With the modern technology we could get gas engines and diesel engines to burn lot Cleaner, WithTheir Engine computers.
This sounds an anti-Tesla/Anti-Elon campaign.
I honestly don't understand how people are willing to pay so much for a Tesla, the quality of the product just doesn't justify the cost. Really the M3 is about the same value as a Honda Accord, so you should be able to buy the hardware for about $25k then be forced to subscribe to use the charging network and to get optional OTA updates along with FSD for say $500/month. In my opinion that is the only part of Tesla that is compelling, the hardware product is on par with Honda, not bad for a $25k car, absurd for something double that!
There is no way on god's green earth I would trade a Tesla model S for Chrysler 300. You have to be totally kidding me that someone wrote about this? A gas guzzling V8 at that. No more being charged and ready to go every morning, that's for sure. Just keep on polluting with the exhaust, brake dust and all the other leaks that thing will have on years to come. You're missing the point, electric cars are making headway to change the future. Hopeful solar charged one-day. There's no Chrysler 300, platinum or not, going to be better or faster then the model S, even non performance. Not only that, no autopilot. I cannot drive a regular car anymore. It's stressful. A Tesla removes all that extra stress during driving.
Quote from: Troy D Botteon on February 17, 2022, 05:38:14
There is no way on god's green earth I would trade a Tesla model S for Chrysler 300. You have to be totally kidding me that someone wrote about this? A gas guzzling V8 at that. No more being charged and ready to go every morning, that's for sure. Just keep on polluting with the exhaust, brake dust and all the other leaks that thing will have on years to come. You're missing the point, electric cars are making headway to change the future. Hopeful solar charged one-day. There's no Chrysler 300, platinum or not, going to be better or faster then the model S, even non performance. Not only that, no autopilot. I cannot drive a regular car anymore. It's stressful. A Tesla removes all that extra stress during driving.
This sounds like a Tesla hater just making up a story, nobody buys such a expensive futuristic electric car then downgrades to a slow dinosaur
I am not surprised the guy bought a Chrysler 300. Do you know how long these cars were in production now? Way over 15 years and there's a reason for that. They're well worth the money, well built, reliable, up-to-date technology and easy to get parts and very powerful and economical to run. I won't touch a Tesla for nothing. I have been hearing about their bad quality for years, but people most buy them for status and to say they own a Tesla. I'd buy an electric vehicle from a real car dealer but never Tesla. Tesla's in the business strictly to make money. They don't have a clue about mechanics or quality control. I'd buy another Fiat or Alfa Romeo before a Tesla.
I wouldn't blame him for wanting a car where a lot of controls can be adjusted without looking.
I do question his taste on styling... As that really is one of the ugliest car around. Also, Chrysler were never really big on reliability, at least not in the last few decades...
Quote from: Chas on February 17, 2022, 08:20:13
I am not surprised the guy bought a Chrysler 300. Do you know how long these cars were in production now? Way over 15 years and there's a reason for that. They're well worth the money, well built, reliable, up-to-date technology and easy to get parts and very powerful and economical to run. I won't touch a Tesla for nothing. I have been hearing about their bad quality for years, but people most buy them for status and to say they own a Tesla. I'd buy an electric vehicle from a real car dealer but never Tesla. Tesla's in the business strictly to make money. They don't have a clue about mechanics or quality control. I'd buy another Fiat or Alfa Romeo before a Tesla.
Fiat and Chrysler are the two great pillars of unreliable cars, i guess you are comparing apples to apples if you are trying to compare between unreliable cars.
Tell me, which major automotive company isn't in it for the money?
That is the funniest made up article I have ever read. Thanks for the entertainment! Trading one of the most sought after cars for a piece of junk Chrysler 300! I am always amazed at the lengths and lows that Tesla haters, or should I say EV haters, will go.
I think tesla's electrical side is good but its vehicle side is rubbish .
Still lot to learn on the latter.
It is an EV so it needs to be good in both fields.
Tesla quality control and customer service is the absolute worse. I sold my M3 b/c Tesla refused to fix problems with brand new car straight from the assembly line. Plus I drive 160miles a day I spent most of my time charging vehicle. It wasnt conducive to my driving habits.
Quote from: Chas on February 17, 2022, 08:20:13
Do you know how long these cars were in production now? Way over 15 years and there's a reason for that. (...)
The reason being these were co-designed sharing a platform from the long gone Daimler-Mercedes partnership, not the usual crap pumped by the FCA group that succeeded it, or even the crap that preceded that Mercedes partnership. It's still a 15 years old model made by a company that rivals the "quality assurance" track record (or lack of thereof) of Tesla.
I respect gymnastics as a sport, but not when it comes to crucial things such as road safety and touting 15 year old projects as amazing, when they were literally built for a different era of safety regulations.
This "news" should just read "guy with poor judgement continues having poor judgement". That's the whole TL;DR from this story.
You know the Tesla is good if some random guy's trade makes the news 😂
I own a Chrysler 300 and love it. Sport model. Commute 400+ miles for work twice a month plus intown driving for work. Electric is not practical for people like me. But my real question is. Why our government is pushing Electric so strongly and the government is driving Gasoline ( guzzlers to add). Lead by example. I am just saying......
This article's intentions are obvious, just trying to smear tesla for bullshit reasons, the writer is paid and biased, and the guy in the story I'd a dumb a**. If you think ice cars are better than electric cars and more environmentally friendly then you are a genius 😉
What kind of moron does not figure out that he has actual physical buttons on his steering wheel? Two rolling buttons that increase and decrease the volume, and increase or decrease the AC? Or with a click mute and unmute or turn the AC on and off?
He is right about the cheap carpet. But what kind of moron does not immediately put in rubber or plastic mats to protect the carpet from sand, water, messes?
The panel gaps are a thing. If you cannot abide those then earlier Teslas are not for you, and never could be.
Wow @ even writing this article. Anecdotal and given some of the "facts" stated, I'm assuming not verified.
I own two model S and I promise a mirror is not $1k.
Of all the rentals I've had over the past 5 years, the Ford Fiesta with automatic transmission was the worst, but a close second was the 2018 Chrysler 300s. It was so bad i returned it the next day and got a different car.
Why is this article even on "Notebook Check" if not just an obvious hit piece.
But the worst part is claiming Chrysler has better build quality than ANY other manufacture. They're consistently the worst. Mercedes had to stop letting them build the high end cars because it was ruining their reputation.
My family has 4 Teslas between us. Only the model S has had some issues but it's a first gen and still running great. Our 3x model 3s have been mostly great. A few issues here and there, but nothing major.
All this to say this article has me unsubscribing from Notebook Check updates.
The anal blood misting of 'Yesla' fangirls is palpable through the screen.
Plenty of people reverting to Gasoline cars if you care to read about it. As for the 300C Hemi being slow? 0 to 60 in 5 seconds is fast enough for most.
Some idiot also stated brake dust as an issue from the Chrysler... guess what the primary brakes are on the 'Tossla'? You guessed it. The regen in real world use will save very little wear and add back negligible energy.
They still run on tyres made from rubber as well.
And self driving car? Just get a bus, they're 'self driving' too and far better for the environment than cars built for the image conscious such as the Turdla.
I think the best bit about driving the Chrysler would be you're not seen in a Tokla.
He also traded his cell phone in for a rotary land line phone cause it had to many buttons 🤣
I did the same. However I ditched the model S in 6 months. Love my i8 so much more. On paper the i8 is supposed to be slower than my S Performance. But on the dragy on average the i8 is faster by .3sec. Overall i8 is Much better. Better tourer. Better ride and when you do get to hit some fun corners I don't miss the roll and excessive weight that made the S feel unnatural. Never needed the back seats in the S so don't miss it at all. oh I almost forgot the s*** audio in the S. Always annoyed me for the money sounded cheap. My beater x3diesel from 2015 even sounded 100x better. At least you can crank up the volume to max without buzz and the whole interior buzzing shaking and falling off.
How to purchase a Model S. 2018 model 75d. And have the same testimony as many other call owners that I have met. Tesla have the worst customer service call have rattles that they would not fix. I have had to fix back trunk latch replace the screen replace the heater blower replace the cup holder replaced one of the door handles dashboard still rattling they will not fix the door is still rattling they would not fix. And yes the inside trim is the cheapest I have ever seen and the say I paid 80000 Plus for a car of this type give us a joke. I'm waiting on General Motors to make the electric vehicle I will never ever recommend a Tesla
I can't afford a Tesla, or a 300. However I know for a fact that the Chrysler 300 is one of the worst built cars out there period. This article is actually fuckin dumb. Who the f*** doesn't put mats in the car if they get it dirty, and then blame the car for getting dirty. Either the writter or the driver are actually fuckin retarded
the article is pure click bait.
If the guy cared about quality and reliability, he should have bought a used Lexus or Honda, and could have bought a much better large car than a Chrysler which have dubious build quality.
There's an obvious agenda behind this whole thing.
The can be controlled by voice commands. No knobs needed . He is obviously a impluse buyer .
First off all the trash talk about the Chrysler 300 is BS because I've had one since 2018 l bought it brand new! Limited addition, leather seats heated and ventilating. Interior lights around cup holder front and back. Heated steering wheel plus more. Ive never had one single problem, not one! And there's nothing slow about the Chrysler 300 not that I'm out here racing risking my life anyways. All cars require a repair eventually so you can't say not to buy this car just because of a problem, they all have problems at some point.
This genius did not notice the cheap interior and bad build quality before he bought it. Sounds like he has at least a masters degree.
I'm the proud owner of a 2018 Chrysler 300c (my third) and while it may not carry a fancy nameplate it can compete with the best. To whoever mentioned poor build quality, you can't get anything near this fir the price. I have a Hemi that can give just about anything a run for the money, a Harman Kardon sound system (same as optional on a Mercedes) killer system and not a single breakdown - even the battery lasted over 5 years on my last one. Don't knock until you try it - there's nothing like the roar of an American V-8!
If I had choice between a Tesla or a 300, I would go with the 300! As far as quality goes, I think that Chrysler is a well built as any car out there. I have looked a Tesla models over the past couple of years and the; quality, styling, is something that doesn't make want to buy one. They are way over rated my opinion. I have a BMW and a Yukon, and I would diffently say that the quality and customer service has been very good, and it sounds like it is better than Tesla. Personally I am not ready to buy any EV, mainly because of lack chargers and technology for batteries is going to change in the next couple of years. I would only consider a Hybrid at this point. That said, the Lucid is without a doubt a much better looking car than any Tesla. But something to consider when buying any car is the cost of insurance. EV are normally more expensive than the Petro cars. The example is the $1k mirror and the 3 month waiting time, which I am sure I would wait but a couple of days if I needed one for either of my cars. But they probably wouldn't have broke in the first place!
I own a Tesla Y Performance. Tesla is the " flavour of the year" but the soviet autos had better quality control than mine. Not 1 body panel lines up properly with the next. The interior in my 90,000$ Cad Y has burrs in the plastic . A 30000$ interior. Getting hold of service is an extremely frustrating affair..every time. There's a reason Porsche put the Tach/ speedo in front of you. It might be trendy but how safe is the speed over to my right in a 3.5 second /100 km dash. Why no heads up display. Why no setting for suspension firmness for a gentle cruise. I'm sold on EV's but mine was designed by someone who didn't actually live with it for any length of time.
I've had 3 Chrysler 300s not one problem very happy with the quality and ride, Chrysler haters don't know what they are talking about.
so basically this guy bought a tesla without doing any research beforehand
Looks like we have a bunch of baby dick Tesla owners in the comment section.
complain about quality of tesla buys a 300 LOL
Hahaha how do you think they get the power to charge your telsas anyway....promise ya it's more coal than it is solar or wind 😂 Tesla owners are pretensions anyway. I'm saving the world by burning coal to power my car instead of gas....dumbest s*** I've ever heard.
As long as the car gets me from point A to point B, nothing else matters. How it looks or what make and model it is. Everyone is always trying to be like everyone else. Do what you like and who cares what people say, people are always going to hate and talk crap, they are miserable bastards.
LMAO Chrysler really. Will need a nother car or truck in not to long
I guess that guy should trade the Dodge 300 in for a Ford Pinto next, Maybe he'll find that even better. ( Moron )
I ve had my Tesla 3 for 3.5 years and all I spent on it is $11 dollars cnd per fill up at Home and a pair of wipers $40 cnd and a cabin air filter $50 that's it. Also I can drive across north America without polluting the Earth for about $20 a fill up, at Tesla superstitions.
I laugh at all the ICE cars at Costco fillings up. They are fighting for spots, each are pumping 1.65 a liter or more.
Ohh yeah I saw, Mr Dodge 300 there., I flipped him the bird..
Electric is the future .
I pay $115 a month for insurance, because its a safer vehicle, and you can't steal it. It has live cameras on all the time . I can watch YouTube or Anything on the Enternet with my Tesla.
Enjoy your Dodge BRO.!
Is he enjoying filling the tank with today's prices?
This is sure funny. He sounds like the average new Tesla owner. Wants something because its hot and popular and finds out its just another pile of crap in some regards. I was wanting to get an original 300C cause of the looks and few people I've knew had them in the past, they are fun to drive, but people are asking 8k-10k for clapped out ones.
Quote from: Troy D Botteon on February 17, 2022, 05:38:14There is no way on god's green earth I would trade a Tesla model S for Chrysler 300. You have to be totally kidding me that someone wrote about this? A gas guzzling V8 at that. No more being charged and ready to go every morning, that's for sure. Just keep on polluting with the exhaust, brake dust and all the other leaks that thing will have on years to come. You're missing the point, electric cars are making headway to change the future. Hopeful solar charged one-day. There's no Chrysler 300, platinum or not, going to be better or faster then the model S, even non performance. Not only that, no autopilot. I cannot drive a regular car anymore. It's stressful. A Tesla removes all that extra stress during driving.
Huh, I wouldn't trust you to drive lmao. You sound like a liability. Is cleaning dishes to much of a chore for you aswell lmao
Quote from: Zyca on February 17, 2022, 08:48:52I wouldn't blame him for wanting a car where a lot of controls can be adjusted without looking.
I do question his taste on styling... As that really is one of the ugliest car around. Also, Chrysler were never really big on reliability, at least not in the last few decades...
Its fricking Hemi, you put your foot down and go. Wheres this reliability crap you speakth of? Its not the crappy 2.7 v6 pile of junk from 2005.
Quote from: Steveoooooooooo on February 17, 2022, 06:30:02This sounds like a Tesla hater just making up a story, nobody buys such a expensive futuristic electric car then downgrades to a slow dinosaur
Nah its called buyers remorse. Also not everything is about driving fast you speed demon.
Quote from: Nick Palmer on February 17, 2022, 12:57:39That is the funniest made up article I have ever read. Thanks for the entertainment! Trading one of the most sought after cars for a piece of junk Chrysler 300! I am always amazed at the lengths and lows that Tesla haters, or should I say EV haters, will go.
Ahh yes, we all know him very well. This bubbly air of proof says such must be around here somewhere sunshine. We all console ourselves in some way when we are distressed, I think I found yours. Grow up you adult baby.
Quote from: Dave Comarin on February 25, 2022, 03:06:14I guess that guy should trade the Dodge 300 in for a Ford Pinto next, Maybe he'll find that even better. ( Moron )
I ve had my Tesla 3 for 3.5 years and all I spent on it is $11 dollars cnd per fill up at Home and a pair of wipers $40 cnd and a cabin air filter $50 that's it. Also I can drive across north America without polluting the Earth for about $20 a fill up, at Tesla superstitions.
I laugh at all the ICE cars at Costco fillings up. They are fighting for spots, each are pumping 1.65 a liter or more.
Ohh yeah I saw, Mr Dodge 300 there., I flipped him the bird..
Electric is the future .
I pay $115 a month for insurance, because its a safer vehicle, and you can't steal it. It has live cameras on all the time . I can watch YouTube or Anything on the Enternet with my Tesla.
Enjoy your Dodge BRO.!
This is what Microwaves do to your brain kids.