#6
Last post by SneakyFrickinRussian - Today at 12:05:07
>Ukraine doesn't count the people there as ethnically Ukrainian or ethnically Russian, they count them as Ukrainian citizens. Only Russia makes a fuss about classifying ethnicity and they count anyone who speaks Russian as Russian ethnicity. And they use that as an excuse to go to war
No, it is not true. ukraine since 2014 was aggresively trying to re-born people as ukrainians - even my step-sister and her husband became self-identified ukrainians, despite having no ancestors of ukranian origin and having basically no working knowledge of ukrainian language. Second, ukraine never identified itself as multi-nation country. It could be easily proved by looking at language laws. For all time of ukraine independence Russian language was opressed as much as it could be for a language of everyday talk for about a half of ukraine population. The first law to cancel by ukrainian parliament after Yanukovich forced exit was law of Russian language status as regional (local) - this was so much important for Western-oriented leaders coming to power after Maidan coup. C'mon, you can distrust me, but Orban talks about the same - ukraine is opressing the right of using people's native language (he talks about Hungarian minority in West Karpathes). No other European country with multiple languages in use by population has so opressing language laws - Belgium, Finland, Switzerland, Netherlands, France, Spain, UK. And yes, the story began before 2014, and yes, no war could excuse it.
>That said, as far as the census went in 2001, 56.9% of people in Donetsk see themselves as Ukrainian, and 38.2% as Russian. Luhansk was 58% Ukranian, 39% Russian
I don't trust even Russian election results, and you are trying to convince me using ukrainian stats - sorry, no way. This question is too political for them to show real statistics. Probably, it is no better thinking, but between 20 to 30 relatives I had/have in Donbass no one was/is speaking ukrainian language - only Russian. The only case of me hearing ukrainian language talk (except from radio/TV) was when some alcoholic man approached me on street asking for money. We had a small talk, and he said he was not local. That's it.
>What nonsense are you talking about?
I'm talking about simple fact - no separatist could win if population doesn't support him. This was main reason why Russia lost first Chechen war. I know for sure Donbass separatists were not angels coming from Heaven, pretty much of them were cruel and violent. But ukranian forces were no better, and Donbass local population rarely saw him as protecters. They were aliens for them. Furthermore, if you still have illusions on what Tornado, Azov, Aydar and other armed nationalistic ukrainian battalions did with local population - google it, you will find many unpleasant surprises. For example, Tornado was so awful that even ukrainian law enforcement couldn't resist to take actions towards them.
>As far as Ukraine is really concerned, as long as Donbas doesn't want to join Ukraine, they would be fine with letting them go if they really wish
No, it is not true. ukraine couldn't afford Donbass to exit, because real rulers of ukraine didn't allow it to happen. If only it was true - we would be living in so much better world now.
>1. Russia doesn't care about Donbas, they only want 2 places, Crimea and Kyiv
In fact, from 2014 to 2022 Putin was trying to return Donbass to ukraine, but under conditions he wanted. In fact, it was a betrayal of all Russian self-identified people of Donbass, but this betrayal is nobody's business except for Putin and Russians. Same time ukraine didn't want to have even more alienated and even more uncontrollable Donbass inside, so lazy war with ocassional artillery bombings and real deaths seemed to be endless.
So is for now.
>2. It would make all agreements worthless between Russia as Budapest already exist under which Russia promised to not to invade Ukraine and guarantee their borders. So it would be like acknowledging any future agreement between Russia can be easily broken by Russia at their convenience
Gorbachev withdrawed Soviet army from East Germany under conditions of NATO not being extended. I know, NATO representatives are cynically trying to convince us that no such agreements and conditions could ever be approved by NATO in that time. But I highly doubt that Gorbachev was so stupid to withdraw without anything for exchange for him. I bet it was unspoken agreement, which Gorbachev sadly refused to write on paper (yeah, I and many other Russians don't count him smart, not only for this reason).
So, it is really ridiculous to hear of broken agreements from you, since almost a half of Europe became NATO members in less than 20 years. And yes, I even didn't start to talk about Serbia bombings in 1999. You have no right to ask Russians to obey agreements except for right of being stronger, but after some not so long time you will loose this right too.
#7
Last post by SuAlfons - Today at 12:03:22
Die neue Oberfläche kommt bei vielen Nutzern in den einschlägigen Reddit - Foren nicht gut an.
Schlechte Navigation, Menüs innerhalb von Seiten, die man durch das Menü aufgerufen hat und schlechte "Discoverabilty" (also dass man Funktionen und Einstellungen als User einfach selbst entdecken kann) sind nämlich durch die neue Startseite nicht verbessert worden.
Etlichen ist es auch egal - sie haben resigniert und nutzen nur noch Strava für ihre Trainingsanalyse.
Bin gerade am Überlegen, welche Uhr als Nachfolger für meine Vivoactive 4 in Frage kommt - aber die Kombi Touchscreen und "MIP" Display gibt es nicht mehr oft. Fenix7 (pro), FR955 sind die einzigen anderen. Mit OLED kommen ein paar mehr in Frage. Vielleicht gehe ich mal bei Coros schauen? Musik von der Uhr habe ich sowie nur selten genutzt.